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Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by wslh on Friday May 12, 2023 @09:48AM (#35916231)
The article sounds like if you leave the door open you should assume anybody will enter and steal you. This is reversing the victim to the victimary.

In a sexist way would be similar that you are being raped because you wear some specific clothes.

Or you are hacked because you don't apply a patch.

Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by arein3 on Friday May 12, 2023 @10:02AM (#35916479)
People downvoting are so used to scummy people that they think it's the norm.

In other societies crime is not normal, and "teenagers" have two braincells to understand that a thief is a repugnant person and that the consequences are not worth it.

Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by wslh on Friday May 12, 2023 @01:59PM (#35919691)
Nice experiment here in HN, it gives us information about a specific bias.
Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by op00to on Friday May 12, 2023 @05:06PM (#35922412)
I have seen teenagers break car windows in London, Brussels, Montreal, Newark NJ... I haven't been to Asia, but I guarantee teenagers do stupid shit there too. I'm not sure why you think teenagers have fully formed brains in other localities but somehow not in Baltimore.
Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by klodolph on Friday May 12, 2023 @10:12AM (#35916658)
Are you reading the same article? The city is going after Kia, not the car owners. Kia is making defective cars; people are buying them; the city is going after Kia.
Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by jjk166 on Friday May 12, 2023 @03:25PM (#35921032)
Yeah, suing clothing manufacturers because people wearing them were raped is not any better. The city has an obligation to prevent crime, car manufacturers do not.
Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by prottog on Friday May 12, 2023 @03:34PM (#35921164)
If anything, the city of Baltimore should sue itself for failing to prevent crime. It would make about as much sense.
Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by hardware2win on Friday May 12, 2023 @09:51AM (#35916284)
Lets do not jump into emotional arguments

Car makers should make their cars as hard as reasonably possible to steal.

If dumb ass tenager can do that, the it is a mess

Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by themaninthedark on Friday May 12, 2023 @10:25AM (#35916822)
But that is exactly where this line of reasoning will take you.

If you don't take "reasonable precautions" then you are liable.

I will also note that I often see comments here talking about living in SF and how they leave their car unlocked or windows down to limit the damage from thieves smashing the windows to get inside.

So with this "reasonable precautions" line, everyone who does this should be liable for promoting theft.

Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by wslh on Friday May 12, 2023 @02:01PM (#35919725)
In my country, thieves removes your wheels, break your window, etc. Any electronic or hacker approach is very advanced.
Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by tatrajim on Friday May 12, 2023 @09:55AM (#35916361)
If a woman doesn't wear a titanium chastity belt, she can be deemed negligent.
Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by arein3 on Friday May 12, 2023 @10:05AM (#35916528)
And if LPL can pick up the belt lock then it's fair game.

Sounds stupid, like the way to blame hyundai or kia for existence of scum people like thieves.

Re:Baltimore sues Hyundai, Kia over spike in car thefts by ufish235 on Friday May 12, 2023 @09:54AM (#35916356)
It's not an appropriate analogy because Kia is not the victim. They are responsible for securing their vehicles appropriately.