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Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by warning26 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @01:21PM (#35877489)
Exactly; the tech companies in SF didn't have the backbone to require RTO like the finance firms in NYC did.

The cities' respective recoveries show that the finance firms made the right call.

Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by bubblethink on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @01:29PM (#35877634)
Right call for whom ? What's it got to do with backbone if it is just not in anyone (except landlord's) interest to mandate RTO ?
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by warning26 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @04:37PM (#35880068)
I'd argue that people having to leaving their house every day is better for society as a whole, even if it feels a bit inconvenient.

Having everyone lock themselves inside and exclusively interact via video chat is not a good thing, IMO.

Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by dumbotron on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @03:27AM (#35884698)
> Having everyone lock themselves inside and exclusively interact via video chat is not a good thing, IMO.

Sounds like a Black Mirror episode.

Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by lisasays on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @01:35PM (#35877732)
A better way of putting it would be:

NYC finance workers didn't have the backbone to resist RTO like SF tech workers did.

Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by surgical_fire on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @01:31PM (#35877661)
lol people would just move jobs to keep working remote.

That's the beauty of working in tech. There's a lot of companies to move over to. Finance is a lot more restricted.

Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by CydeWeys on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @01:47PM (#35877915)
And, interestingly enough, an increasing number of people have moved to NYC to work remotely from here. Living in NYC is a legitimate attraction in its own right, and is appealing to a lot of people even if they're not working here.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by surgical_fire on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @01:55PM (#35878035)
As long as people are living where they can afford and enjoy, that's awesome news.

Personally, I prefer to live in smaller cities, but I lived in a huge metropolitan area for decades. I just grew tired of it. In that regard, remote work for me is a blessing.

Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ... by Ancalagon on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @01:28PM (#35877619)
Is "backbone" the new moniker for "iron fist"?