Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ...
by cameldrv on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @01:20PM
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Maybe not, but if office rents are really going to be way down, it's possible to give developers private offices again.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ...
by wootland on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @01:24PM
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I can only speak for myself but I would never work non-remote again, even if I had my own private office.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ...
by wahnfrieden on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @01:30PM
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Covid WFH took me further - I would never work again if I can help it
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ...
by azemetre on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @01:50PM
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I wouldn't mind working remote if my commute is walkable. I purposely live in Boston to have access to the T, but many companies in Boston are opening up offices in Seaport which is the most awkward place to get to using public transit.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ...
by aquajet on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @03:07PM
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When I worked in Seaport i'd just walk from south station
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ...
by azemetre on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @07:07PM
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The issue is that most offices (especially the bio/chemistry ones) are at the far end, also the silver line blows; unless your office is less than a one mile radius (even then depending on the street it can be painful) it's just a bad time.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ...
by mock-possum on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @02:56AM
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Yeah same, if I just had to walk 5 or 6 blocks to get to work, I’d probably go for it. Walk home for lunch. Sounds pretty alright.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ...
by el_benhameen on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @02:10PM
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I’ve been fully remote since before the pandemic, and I have a dedicated home office, but a private office space would help me at least consider spending some of my time in the office. Being away from the responsibilities of home can help with focus. Wouldn’t consider a mandatory or full-time return to office, though.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ...
by bombcar on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @02:31PM
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I've never had to work in an actual cube farm or open concept (the one time I was technically in a cube farm was when I was one of five people in a farm built for 50+) but a private office is nice in ways you just can't really articulate.
We had a nice setup for awhile that was a central meeting/conference/open area, with offices all around it, each of which had a large window looking at the meeting area. You could close a curtain if you really needed to, but otherwise it was sound-proof; people could easily see if you were available but you could work privately, make calls, etc.
I'd be willing to consider commuting for something like that again in the right job.
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by bastardoperator on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @02:16PM
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Same, I built my own private office and I don't have to deal with traffic to get to it, or deal with constant interrupts because other people have decided they're not working so I shouldn't either. My productivity is through the roof since going fully remote 6 years ago.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ...
by prpl on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @02:36PM
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Can I ask about your home life? Do you have, or expect to have: partner, parents, roommates, children, pets?
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ...
by wahnfrieden on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @01:29PM
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Owners who hate the lack of oversight with WFH are not the ones who like private offices with doors for workers. They don't mandate RTO out of concern for your privacy.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ...
by georgeecollins on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @02:33PM
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I think I will go into the office if it is nice enough. A few years before the pandemic I started working for an old school company with offices including doors, windows, nice furniture and privacy. Now we mix in office and remote work but I don't mind going to the office because I can be more focused there.
When I look back over past jobs, the question I wish I had asked more in advance is where will I sit here? I am never going to work in a barn again. It's not just about open plan seating, which has pros and cons. But when the company stacks people like boxes, it turns out they think of you as something fungible.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ...
by wildrhythms on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @06:56AM
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Ironically, my employer, which is starting to demand RTO, is taking away many office amenities and even forcing people to alternate days and share desks. The higherups are making the offices worse and thinking people want to come back to that. Their heads are so far up their own asses it's amazing.
Re:Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. ...
by 908B64B197 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @04:24PM
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I remember touring Apple Park not long after it was opened and thinking that it made everyone else's offices look so... dated.
Private bathrooms for every employee? No commute? The office can never "feel like my home", my home doesn't have my co-workers in it. It's an environment 100% of my design.