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Re:‘Mind-boggling’ methane emissions from Turkmenistan revealed by paganel on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @06:00AM (#35872036)
If that means the Global South invading countries like the US or the UK in order to stop big ecociders like Shell, Exxon, Chevron or P&G, then I’m all for it.

Unfortunately we all know that those are not the intended targets of that legislation.

Re:‘Mind-boggling’ methane emissions from Turkmenistan revealed by jupp0r on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @06:17AM (#35872132)
Invading other countries is against international law, and is exactly what these regulations aim to prevent.
Re:‘Mind-boggling’ methane emissions from Turkmenistan revealed by paganel on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @08:49AM (#35873573)
So, then, how are they going to stop those supposed ecocides? Meaning, how are they going to enforce those regulations on countries that are not following them?
Re:‘Mind-boggling’ methane emissions from Turkmenistan revealed by red-iron-pine on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @09:49AM (#35874255)
There are enforcement methods that don't involve invasions
Re:‘Mind-boggling’ methane emissions from Turkmenistan revealed by paganel on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @12:50PM (#35877102)
Such as?

More to the point, and putting ecocide and genocide in a similar ballpark, doesn’t anyone remember Rwanda anymore? Or Srebrenica? (this latter labeled technically as a massacre). Does anyone believe that those atrocities could have been stopped by “harsh words” alone? Or by economic sanctions? They weren’t.

Enforcement in this case means imposition of force, which in an inter-state situation means invasion or, at the very least, a military attack (see Kosovo in ‘99, technically not an invasion).

Re:‘Mind-boggling’ methane emissions from Turkmenistan revealed by jupp0r on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @08:12PM (#35882030)
I didn't count UN sanctioned peacekeeping as "invasion", but I can see how this could be seen as a purely semantic distinction.

I personally think it should be one instrument on the table as a matter of last resort, mainly for the purpose of deterrence.

Re:‘Mind-boggling’ methane emissions from Turkmenistan revealed by foverzar on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @02:50AM (#35884432)
> Invading other countries is against international law

This is a popular assumption, but it is not true. At least, definitely not now:

US and Europe invading multiple countries and international community being chill about it had set a strong enough precedent.

C'mon, NATO had recently updated its doctrines to allow it warfare over climate - we have all the preconditions for fun stuff.