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Re:Fired for Using Firefox by tamarind8 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @03:02AM (#35871056)
What I did say was that I rarely use browser debuggers, because I've just never felt the need to. The console.log and a good mental image of what the code is doing has got me this far.

I asked my boss, that as a senior dev with over 15 proven experience, he should not stress to much about HOW I do it, just WHAT I deliver, and WHEN it is delivered. I guess that was asking for to much? Or being insubordinate? Anyways, I was told my skills, abilities or personality was not the problem, am just not "a good fit". Why? Because I like firefox, and using text editors (vs code) over IDES (visual studio).

Re:Fired for Using Firefox by mikro2nd on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @03:08AM (#35871087)
It sounds like the tooling was just being used as an excuse, that they'd decided to fire you regardless for reasons that they wouldn't want to articulate because they'd be grounds for legal action. Just guessing, of course, but don't believe ~everything~ anything you've been told. I believe you've already made good choices in this: take a deep breath and move on, having "dodged a bullet" as others have commented. Good luck with your next gig.
Re:Fired for Using Firefox by tamarind8 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @03:33AM (#35871249)
You get it. I will not be surprised at all if the move to React never happened, and everything is still on angular8 one year from now. So why hire me in the fast place? Because they think they can just hire and then fire someone on a whim? If I don't do something about this, they will do it to someone else.
Re:Fired for Using Firefox by Toutouxc on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @03:51AM (#35871351)
> If I don't do something about this, they will do it to someone else.

Name and shame then? Don’t know how well this goes with the suing that everyone’s proposing though.

Re:Fired for Using Firefox by tamarind8 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @05:19AM (#35871819)
Have I named anyone here? Have I shamed anyone here?

All I have said, is I'm going to look into my rights as an employee, and question whether I was treated fairly. Why do you have a problem with that?

Re:Fired for Using Firefox by Toutouxc on Wednesday May 10, 2023 @01:00AM (#35883809)
You misunderstood my post, that was also a proposal. Like “maybe you should name and shame then?”.
Re:Fired for Using Firefox by whiddershins on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @03:52AM (#35871364)
Honestly: are you a bit argumentative?

If I was in the first few weeks of a job I would try to be receptive to what my coworkers suggest, not win any arguments.

Re:Fired for Using Firefox by tamarind8 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @05:44AM (#35871949)
Actually, I think I was a bit too accommodating.

I let a fellow dev fully set up my dev box twice. The second time I did tell him lets do this later, I really want to work on that first ticket but he just kept on typing, ignoring me. I shoudld have grabbed the keyboard from him the moment I realized he was deleting my current ubuntu WSL setup. Guess I just kept silent in the spirit of "being receptive to what my coworkers suggest". Little did I know that my boss would decide that this means i don't know anything.

Re:Fired for Using Firefox by tamarind8 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @05:53AM (#35871996)
> Honestly: are you a bit argumentative?

Not at all. I pick my battles. Some things are worth fighting for, others can be ignored. Not all conflict is bad. Every manager reading this should google "form norm storm perform"

Any senior dev worth their salt should have, and be allowed to have a "storm". We all have our experience, and the paths we followed to get that experience. If a companty thinks your experience and path is useless to them, why would they hire you in the first place?

Re:Fired for Using Firefox by quickthrower2 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @03:55AM (#35871382)
I sort of agree with you: if I am reaching for the debugger I know I am in trouble! It is good for ... well ... bugs - things that got past QA and are hard to pin down. It is also good for CSS "hacking", as in why won't it work so let's play with different CSS settings.
Re:Fired for Using Firefox by tamarind8 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @05:24AM (#35871844)
I most definitely use the browser dev tools extensively. The debugger is just one of those tools, and it simply does not apply when it comes to CSS. The debugger is for JS bugs.
Re:Fired for Using Firefox by TylerE on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @03:58AM (#35871407)
Console.log and a prayer isn’t exactly the kind of thing I’d like to hear from a dev I’d just hired, tbh.
Re:Fired for Using Firefox by tamarind8 on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @06:37AM (#35872302)
The prayer bit is you!!! :)

And is that a front end dev? So please tell me exactly, HOW you want your senior front end devs to solve the problems you assign to them.

Re:Fired for Using Firefox by TylerE on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @11:14AM (#35875576)
Yeah, you weren't fired for using Firefox. You were fired for acting dickish about it.
Re:Fired for Using Firefox by bombolo on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @05:48AM (#35871967)
Some bosses want to control which fingers you use when typing.