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Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by revelio on Sunday May 07, 2023 @10:27AM (#35851885)
You're talking about the company that just re-introduced MagSafe, its widely praised proprietary power connector, and claiming the times of one company doing their own proprietary thing are close to gone? Apple is cleaning up in the PC market and has been for years by being as proprietary as possible.
Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by viraptor on Sunday May 07, 2023 @10:36AM (#35851977)
They reintroduced it in addition to USB charging and only on the most recent MBP models. They're doing both standard and proprietary thing at the same time which is quite different from the connector battles we had in the past.
Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by seanmcdirmid on Sunday May 07, 2023 @10:38AM (#35851988)
Those laptop also support USB-C charging however, you don’t have to use MagSafe.

They brought back MagSafe because customers weren’t satisfied with USB-C charging.

Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by revelio on Sunday May 07, 2023 @10:55AM (#35852154)
Yes ... exactly ... they reintroduced a non-standard connector because people preferred it to the standard one. See the problem?
Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by TheCleric on Sunday May 07, 2023 @11:48AM (#35852660)
And if they weren't stingy with the patent, it could become the standard if everyone else agreed as well. And I say this as someone who prefers magsafe over usb-c.
Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by baq on Sunday May 07, 2023 @01:28PM (#35853626)
No, I don’t.

They’re supporting both standard and proprietary. My MacBook Pro is connected to a multi port USB-C charger 99% of the time, which also charges my phone and my headset. MagSafe sits in the backpack when I need to work somewhere else than my desk, which doesn’t happen much. I’d argue it’s the best of both worlds.

If it only supported MagSafe I’d be seriously annoyed.

Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by revelio on Sunday May 07, 2023 @02:04PM (#35853951)
You do see that we're discussing the underlying principle here, right? Please, try to put aside the specifics of the exact hardware and understand that what matters here is the EU's descent into attempting to centrally plan technology. This tendency isn't specific to power cables, it's a clear trend across many sectors.
Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by Dylan16807 on Sunday May 07, 2023 @04:20PM (#35855258)
The principle is "It supports the standard, and that is very good."

The problem with nonstandard connectors is when they get in the way of standard operation, not merely existing.

Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by baq on Sunday May 07, 2023 @04:58PM (#35855543)
The EU had already centrally planned my 240V wall sockets and RJ-45 Ethernet plugs and I’m seriously grateful for it. I’ll happily accept USB-C for low voltage low amp DC charging on that list.
Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by nickpp on Sunday May 07, 2023 @05:36PM (#35855842)
The are multiple wall power plugs standards in use today in EU. And I am not aware on any being mandated on the device itself. And RJ-45 is so big that it doesn't fit on the slim edge of my MacBook Air - I would love for it to be replaced with some modern alternative.
Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by dghlsakjg on Sunday May 07, 2023 @02:43PM (#35854310)
They reintroduced the non-standard connector because usb-c limits were slowing down the charging time. Its not just a preference thing, its a functionality thing. Macbooks charge faster with magsafe.

Magsafe delivers 140 watts compared to 100 watts for usb-c. That difference is not insignificant for people who aren't plugged in all day.

Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by Dylan16807 on Sunday May 07, 2023 @04:31PM (#35855352)
Magsafe 3 uses USB-C on the other end of the cable. It uses the support for up to 240 watts that the USB forum announced a few months before Magsafe 3 was announced.
Re:EU sends Apple stark warning over USB-C charging on new i... by dghlsakjg on Sunday May 07, 2023 @06:25PM (#35856197)
Huh. Thanks for the lesson