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Re:Coinbase (?) had a $65M Datadog bill per Datadog's Q1 ear... by berkle4455 on Friday May 05, 2023 @11:54PM (#35837818)
qryn is solid and very affordable because you self-host. it supports DD vectors out of the box. /dev/null is always a strong contender too.
Re:Coinbase (?) had a $65M Datadog bill per Datadog's Q1 ear... by AtlasBarfed on Saturday May 06, 2023 @12:06AM (#35837866)
Are you joking or is there actually a datadog-like startup named dev null?
Re:Coinbase (?) had a $65M Datadog bill per Datadog's Q1 ear... by cbeley on Saturday May 06, 2023 @12:19AM (#35837935)
Think of it like DataDog 2.0: https://devnull-as-a-service.com/
Re:Coinbase (?) had a $65M Datadog bill per Datadog's Q1 ear... by berkle4455 on Saturday May 06, 2023 @12:16AM (#35837916)
I'm saying most logs are pointless to keep and would be better directed to /dev/null. Keep important transaction related logs and sample the rest.

The notion that every single log or metric across your entire technical architecture is worth keeping is one implanted by SaaS providers with a financial interest in naive engineers doing just that.

Re:Coinbase (?) had a $65M Datadog bill per Datadog's Q1 ear... by mdmglr on Saturday May 06, 2023 @12:23AM (#35837964)
I agree. Many applications log for the hello of it and log unnecessary information.

We have concepts of debug, info, warn and error… but I think we need apps to be developed with the concept of log concern.

For example take sshd. For infosec they are interested in IP of failed attempts, operations might want to know connection failures, etc.

Re:Coinbase (?) had a $65M Datadog bill per Datadog's Q1 ear... by onionisafruit on Saturday May 06, 2023 @12:46AM (#35838112)
That sounds ridiculous, but on the other hand people trust their code to a service called bitbucket.
Re:Coinbase (?) had a $65M Datadog bill per Datadog's Q1 ear... by qxip on Saturday May 06, 2023 @04:21AM (#35839317)
Thanks for mentioning qryn! We are a non-corporate alternative and feature full ingestion compatibility with DataDog (including Cloudflare emitters, etc), Loki, Prometheus, Tempo, Elastic & others for both on-prem (https://qryn.dev) and Cloud (https://qryn.cloud) deployments, without the killer price tag.

Note: in qryn s3/r2 are as close to /dev/null as it gets!