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Re:Google DeepMind CEO Says Some Form of AGI Possible in a F... by bsaul on Wednesday May 03, 2023 @11:06AM (#35803271)
"it just seems to understand" :

Does stockfish "understand" chess, or does it just "seem to understand" chess ?

For all practical purposes and intent, this doesn't make much difference.

Re:Google DeepMind CEO Says Some Form of AGI Possible in a F... by riffraff on Thursday May 04, 2023 @04:09PM (#35821390)
yes, for all practical purposes stockfish understands chess. For most practical purposes ChatGPT understands how to string tokens together.

But in AGI, G is the important bit, and neither Stockfish nor ChatGPT have demonstrated general understanding of the world.

Re:Google DeepMind CEO Says Some Form of AGI Possible in a F... by bsaul on Thursday May 04, 2023 @04:20PM (#35821524)
i think you're conflating being self-conscious, and being intelligent. In AGI , A is also very important. A universal oracle stuck in a machine, able to correctly predict anything and answer all questions, but still having no "desire" or "will" or consciousness, would be an AGI ( imho )
Re:Google DeepMind CEO Says Some Form of AGI Possible in a F... by riffraff on Friday May 05, 2023 @02:25AM (#35825828)
maybe I am, but I would agree with the universal oracle being generally intelligent, I simply don't think our current tools are like that.

E.g. consider this exchange with chatgpt

> hey assistant, can you provide me with a link to learn about LLMs?

> Certainly! LLM stands for Master of Laws, which is a postgraduate degree in law. Here is a link to a website that provides information about LLM programs, including what they entail and how to apply: > https://www.llmstudy.com/what-is-an-llm/what-is-an-llm-.aspx > I hope you find this helpful! Let me know if you have any further questions.

> that is not a real link, can you provide another?

> I apologize for that mistake. Here is the correct link: > https://www.llmstudy.com/what-is-an-llm/what-is-an-llm-.aspx > Please let me know if you have any further questions or if there is anything else I can help you with.

ChatGPT makes up a URL, twice. Does it understand URLs? Does it understand that the URL is wrong? I don't think it does, and I don't think it requires consciousness to do this interaction in a sane way.

Still this does not mean it's useless, it's super useful!