NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car thefts

Re:NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car ... by Arch-TK on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @05:29PM (#35794474)

There is no alternative to AirTags which doesn't take up additional space or come with major downsides. The way AirTags work is by using low power ultra wideband communications to respond to what are effectively ping packets which get sent out by apple devices in the area. The devices get the AirTag's ID and the distance and submit it to Apple for processing. Apple uses the distance information to trilaterate the AirTags and sends this information to the owner of the tag.

As such, AirTags only work because of Apple's market position and extremely wide reach. Put simply, Apple is abusing their control over their devices and the trust their users have placed in them to perform a form of mass surveillance.

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Re:NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car ... by sleepybrett on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @05:39PM (#35794595)

Tile works the same way but just with bluetooth. Any phone with a tile app on it is snitching on every tag it sees. Apple of course wins here because it's just every damn iphone, not just the ones that have an app installed.

As someone who has used both the airtag is just plain better when it comes to locating it, the uwb stuff is awesome. But the tile tags have some upsides as well. I love the button on the tile that you can use to ring your phone, helps solve ye olde.. i have my keys, where's my phone problem.

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Re:NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car ... by comex on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @06:17PM (#35794983)

AirTags encrypt the location data end-to-end between the finding device and the Find My app on the owner’s devices. There’s no mass surveillance, unless you count masses of individual users surveilling their own AirTags.

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Re:NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car ... by scarface74 on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @07:30PM (#35795663)

So Apple is abusing their control over devices by making devices that work well together?

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Re:NYPD urges citizens to buy AirTags to fight surge in car ... by catiopatio on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @10:34PM (#35797049)

I fail to see any abuse or mass surveillance. “Find my” is end-to-end encrypted, and Apple does not have access to the device location or anyone’s identity:

https://support.apple.com/guide/security/find-my-security-se...

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