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Re:“Twitter is going great” is being sunset by fullshark on Monday May 01, 2023 @10:44AM (#35773452)
These social networks never implode in spectacularly entertaining fashion, making the premise of the site flawed from beginning. They become zombies and collapse gradually, and then suddenly. Maybe twitter will reach a steady state of journalist echo chamber and survive for a bit longer but I don't understand why anyone spends time there unless they are advertising their work / doing public relations.
Re:“Twitter is going great” is being sunset by satokema on Monday May 01, 2023 @10:58AM (#35773686)
The Japanese artists I follow to see their art once in a while apparently have not gotten the "Twitter is dying" memo.
Re:“Twitter is going great” is being sunset by majikaja on Monday May 01, 2023 @11:07AM (#35773848)
Japanese Twitter feels like manifestation of nation-level social dysfunction

It's popular here because people don't feel able to express themselves to others outside of such an online platform. That and prostitution

Elon wants to export this dystopia to the rest of the world... I joke, I doubt he has any clue about anything beyond the user counts.

Re:“Twitter is going great” is being sunset by cxr on Monday May 01, 2023 @11:03AM (#35773774)
> They become zombies and collapse gradually, and then suddenly.

I know people love to crib Hemingway's turn of phrase, but I don't think it makes sense here. Because it's the opposite, right? Sudden first, and then gradual. There's some big catalyst, and what remains afterwards slowly dissipates seemingly interminably towards zero. Even in notable cases like MySpace, which still exists, it's just "gradual" at first and then it's still "gradual" later, too.

Re:“Twitter is going great” is being sunset by fullshark on Monday May 01, 2023 @11:15AM (#35773971)
Hmm perhaps you are right. Elon acquisition of Twitter / Fox News acquisition of Myspace? not sure what was the catalyst there. Removing porn from Tumblr? All sudden shocks that lead to a long term decline and eventual irrelevance.
Re:“Twitter is going great” is being sunset by cxr on Monday May 01, 2023 @05:17PM (#35779297)
News Corp is not the same thing as Fox News, but aside from that, I wasn't saying there was a catalyst in the MySpace case. And it wasn't the purchase by News Corp that caused attrition, besides; MySpace saw massive growth for years with News Corp in control all the while, including its peak.

I was saying the opposite: attrition form MySpace was gradual at first and also gradual later. People left MySpace because Facebook ate its lunch in part with a better user experience—because contrary to what the folks who pine for a second coming of GeoCities-style personal homepages constantly bang on about, when it comes to consumption people want legible, mostly consistent experiences instead of just giving creators free reign to control font shapes and sizes, colors, background images, background music/noises, etc. (I'm digressing now, but this unity of interface concern is basically the same reason why github.com/* pages are more desirable/sought out as an entry point to understanding what a given software project is about than stuff in the *.github.io namespace.)

Re:“Twitter is going great” is being sunset by rsynnott on Monday May 01, 2023 @07:04PM (#35780521)
Depends. Livejournal, say, was gradual (long-term decline), then sudden (Russian takeover). Similar for freenode. Digg was sudden (truly disastrous redesign), then gradual (spiral into irrelevance). Tumblr was… kind of all over the place.
Re:“Twitter is going great” is being sunset by detaro on Monday May 01, 2023 @10:53AM (#35773595)
> They become zombies and collapse gradually, and then suddenly

From an information perspective, that makes tracking it over time more relevant, not less. But of course also means it's a lot more work.

Re:“Twitter is going great” is being sunset by fullshark on Monday May 01, 2023 @10:56AM (#35773642)
Sure, such a website could exist, but it wouldn't be very fun to read or maintain. Seems like they created this site in a desire to partake in schadenfreude, not as an intellectual exercise.
Re:“Twitter is going great” is being sunset by nicky0 on Monday May 01, 2023 @10:56AM (#35773644)
But they weren't really tracking changes in Twitter over time in any meaningful or informative way. The were just regurgitating a variety of anti-Elon headlines.
Re:“Twitter is going great” is being sunset by eduction on Monday May 01, 2023 @11:03AM (#35773763)
>They become zombies and collapse gradually, and then suddenly.

This is true for all companies though. It's arguably happening to Google now, and to Facebook, and, hard as it is to imagine, will happen to Apple some day, even if that day is decades away. GE was an icon of corporate competence in the 80s and is now in parts. Toyota has long seemed invincible but now has to make it through the transition to electric vehicles. Intel, Microsoft, etc.

The hard part is not predicting that a corporation will decline, it's getting the timing right. (Just ask Michael Dell, who in the mid 1990s famously said he'd shut down Apple and sell it for parts if he was in charge. Red Herring magazine kept predicting Amazon's imminent collapse and at least half the people reading this don't even know who that is because they very much died first.)

Re:“Twitter is going great” is being sunset by butterfi on Monday May 01, 2023 @10:57AM (#35773659)
Sounds like the digital equivalent of a dead mall
Re:“Twitter is going great” is being sunset by cornhole34 on Monday May 01, 2023 @11:16AM (#35773978)
thanks foldingideas
Re:“Twitter is going great” is being sunset by moogly on Monday May 01, 2023 @11:08AM (#35773850)
I think Digg did, but overall you're right.
Re:“Twitter is going great” is being sunset by bena on Monday May 01, 2023 @10:51AM (#35773569)
Exactly, everyone is expecting a Toys R Us moment, an Enron implosion, or an FTX scandal, but really, it's going to be IBM. It's going to be Atari. It's going to be MySpace, Digg, etc. It'll dwindle until it's a shell of its former self. And you won't be able to say exactly when it flipped from being alive to a zombie, but you'll know it's just different now.