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Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by speedgoose on Saturday April 29, 2023 @10:27AM (#35753172)
It depends on the location. In Norway they are usually perfectly on time, you don’t have any ads, they do the required tests and examinations, they listen to you, they take the time to explain everything and will do drawings if necessary, they tell you to do more sport, and you get billed about $25 (but it becomes free if you spend more than $300 in visits and medications during the year).
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by mensetmanusman on Saturday April 29, 2023 @10:54AM (#35753451)
Might be a consequence of oil wealth offering a government savings rate of $200,000 per citizen?
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by tbossanova on Saturday April 29, 2023 @11:22AM (#35753776)
There are other places with a similar experience that don’t have the same oil wealth. I wonder though if it’s different at the higher end of things, like expensive treatments for major issues which a tighter public purse might not stretch to.
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by hgsgm on Saturday April 29, 2023 @12:38PM (#35754499)
That's an asset, not a savings rate.

USA's mean household Net Worth is $500K more than Norway's, and average household is about 3 people (some households are single people) so the oil fund approximately cancels that out.

Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by speedgoose on Saturday April 29, 2023 @01:13PM (#35754870)
No, I don't think the oil fund (https://www.nbim.no/en/) is responsible for the culture to be on time or is connected directly to the public healthcare finances. Though being a state with money helps, obviously.
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by kwhitefoot on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:12PM (#35756100)
Perhaps you could explain how a fund that doesn't invest onshore does this. The government uses only a small percentage of the return on the fund (not the capital) each year.
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by cscurmudgeon on Saturday April 29, 2023 @11:33AM (#35753893)
Even in the US you don't get Pharma ads in a hospital.
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by ericbarrett on Saturday April 29, 2023 @12:26PM (#35754385)
Have you ever seen those brochures and flyers in the waiting room (and sometimes even the exam room)? Those are almost entirely supplied to the practice by pharma reps. Every U.S. doctor's office I've been in for the last four decades has been full of them.
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by cscurmudgeon on Saturday April 29, 2023 @01:32PM (#35755059)
I have seen zero such brochures in every US doctor’s office I have visited. Zero.

Is there any study that shows how prevalent they are?

Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by andsoitis on Saturday April 29, 2023 @06:07PM (#35757730)
Besides brochures, these ads also come in the form of posters and bulletin board posts. Next time, also look at the walls.
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by salad-tycoon on Saturday April 29, 2023 @08:58PM (#35758765)
Not to say that you had a very unique set of experiences but having been in many doctors offices and worked in a number, in the US there are generally brochures, pamphlets, pens, note pads, and the worst of all TV SCREENS advertising pharma crap.

The only place I haven’t seen brochures is my direct patient contract doctor (concierge) and even then he has natural herbal supplements for various things.

So just saying your experience is atypical. But it sounds like a dream.

Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by cscurmudgeon on Monday May 01, 2023 @12:36AM (#35769130)
Curious, are there any references? I have seen zero. Of course, I see tons of ads on TV so if the Dr.'s office has TV on, that may be one source. But I am curious about ads outside of the TV, haven't any like that in a Dr's office.
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by throwaway675309 on Saturday April 29, 2023 @07:03PM (#35758136)
It only takes one person's evidence to prove your generalization wrong. My last visit to a podiatrist had dozens of ads on the walls and television that was airing nonstop commercials for medical products. Nothing makes for a better captive audience than excruciatingly long wait times.
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by kldx on Saturday April 29, 2023 @12:01PM (#35754158)
> perfectly on time

> they do the required tests and examinations

Do you have a source or is this anecdata? I do agree with your other claims though.

Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by speedgoose on Saturday April 29, 2023 @01:15PM (#35754886)
Not really. I said that based on the experiences from my close family. The sample size is small.
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by kldx on Sunday April 30, 2023 @05:41AM (#35761042)
My experience (N=~5) is that the waiting times for legevakten are in the order of a couple of hours for anything non trivial. I have also observed some reluctance on preventative tests at the fastlege.

I don't mean to contradict your observations, but our experiences could have been different based on our age, location, gender and what we're being treated for. Selecting a good GP matters a lot too.

Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by WheatMillington on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:14PM (#35756123)
I'm in New Zealand and my experience matches the GP comment, except cost and pharma ads. Long wait times and disinterested doctors are the norm.
Re:Study: ChatGPT Outperforms Physicians in Quality, Empathe... by pizza234 on Sunday April 30, 2023 @08:03AM (#35761786)
I personally have a good exprience with good doctors (which one, with some time, can find), but perfectly on time is not realistic, as time with patients can't be predicted.