V for Vendetta and the Rise of Anonymous - by Alan Moore

Re:V for Vendetta and the Rise of Anonymous - by Alan Moore by Helianthus on Friday February 10, 2012 @06:09AM (#3575296)

It is all too easy to pretend that people have no say in the actions of their commonwealth, and much too difficult to believe that patriotism, pacifism, idealism, and conservatism each have something important to say.

I am unimpressed with your cynicism.

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Re:V for Vendetta and the Rise of Anonymous - by Alan Moore by yaix on Friday February 10, 2012 @06:45AM (#3575384)

"Cynic" is what the idealist calls the realist.

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Re:V for Vendetta and the Rise of Anonymous - by Alan Moore by rhizome on Friday February 10, 2012 @01:21PM (#3576835)

The capacity for accurate observation is often called, "cynicism" by those who haven't got it.

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Re:V for Vendetta and the Rise of Anonymous - by Alan Moore by aptwebapps on Friday February 10, 2012 @08:22AM (#3575656)

The quote is fine as long as you don't take as an absolute statement of the only way things can be. It is a fact that the outlined strategy is almost always effective.

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Re:V for Vendetta and the Rise of Anonymous - by Alan Moore by arethuza on Friday February 10, 2012 @10:09AM (#3576054)

Thanks, that's what I meant by including it this discussion.

Personally, I would hope we could raise the general level of skepticism and equip ourselves with a Sagan-like "Baloney Detection Kit" so that everyone is aware of this technique for motivating populations towards conflict and that this hopefully makes us all more immune to it.

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Re:V for Vendetta and the Rise of Anonymous - by Alan Moore by Karunamon on Friday February 10, 2012 @01:25PM (#3576854)

Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles.

~George Jean Nathan

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Re:V for Vendetta and the Rise of Anonymous - by Alan Moore by GFKjunior on Friday February 10, 2012 @04:12PM (#3577502)

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

~Samuel Johnson

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Re:V for Vendetta and the Rise of Anonymous - by Alan Moore by jbooth on Friday February 10, 2012 @09:48AM (#3575960)

As a liberal, I'd like to thank you for invoking conservatism in defense of fascism. It's very satisfying for me.

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Re:V for Vendetta and the Rise of Anonymous - by Alan Moore by irishcoffee on Friday February 10, 2012 @12:02PM (#3576512)

As someone who doesn't pick a party but rather considers each issue without the taint of party lines, I think labels are hilarious... and stupid.

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Re:V for Vendetta and the Rise of Anonymous - by Alan Moore by Karunamon on Friday February 10, 2012 @01:26PM (#3576861)

"liberal" and "conservative" are not party lines - they are methods of thought.

Fascists generally aren't liberal, and vice versa.

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Re:V for Vendetta and the Rise of Anonymous - by Alan Moore by irishcoffee on Friday February 10, 2012 @01:53PM (#3576979)

@saraid216 - I was in no way trying to paint myself as in individualistic personality phenomenon. Not really sure what you're trying to contribute.

@Karunamon - Sure, but dropping into groupthink in any setting is a dangerous thing to do. The earth is flat, etc.

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Re:V for Vendetta and the Rise of Anonymous - by Alan Moore by saraid216 on Friday February 10, 2012 @01:44PM (#3576946)

You are a very special and unique snowflake. Just like every other snowflake.

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