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Re:Tell HN: Cloudflare verification is breaking the internet by bearjaws on Friday April 28, 2023 @04:57PM (#35747013)
... I don't think people are using cloudflare to protect something willy nilly.

My general experience is, if you host a popular site, it will be DDOS'd.

If you host a site in a 'competitive' space, you will get DDOS'd.

I've seen it all personally, forums, image upload sites, NFT galleries, and SAAS health tech even, people will spend a couple hundred dollars to make you miserable.

If you don't have protection, they can literally see how you are falling and it only encourages further spend.

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Re:Tell HN: Cloudflare verification is breaking the internet by evilspammer on Friday April 28, 2023 @06:04PM (#35747666)
Worth mentioning that Cloudflare also hosts those DDOS services and prevents them from being shut down.
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Re:Tell HN: Cloudflare verification is breaking the internet by dymk on Saturday April 29, 2023 @01:26AM (#35750285)
Like what?
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Re:Tell HN: Cloudflare verification is breaking the internet by stjohnswarts on Saturday April 29, 2023 @01:52AM (#35750402)
do you have a sauce on that? it's a really big charge.
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Re:Tell HN: Cloudflare verification is breaking the internet by evilspammer on Saturday April 29, 2023 @11:13AM (#35753665)
I spoke too strongly to say they keep them online intentionally. The services do per se violate their AUP but because CF protects their identity, CF becomes the arbiter of taking them offline, and doesn't always agree to do so.
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Re:Tell HN: Cloudflare verification is breaking the internet by doublerabbit on Friday April 28, 2023 @08:37PM (#35748839)
> ... I don't think people are using cloudflare to protect something willy nilly.

I do, it's a buzzword. Cloudflare, you don't have that? Your not cool unless you do.

With the young apprentices learning the ropes of SRE/SysAdmin, DDoS protection has been painted as a #101 of the web when realistically you don't need it.

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Re:Tell HN: Cloudflare verification is breaking the internet by rhtgrg on Saturday April 29, 2023 @12:25AM (#35750021)
Also, Cloudflare is one of the easier free gateways to set up for your domain. Lots of people are using that (and Cloudflare apps) and they probably enable these protections without giving it a second thought.
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Re:Tell HN: Cloudflare verification is breaking the internet by orthecreedence on Saturday April 29, 2023 @04:59AM (#35751298)
Is putting up a HAProxy instance with some DDoS mitigation rules really that hard?
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