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Re:More Young Adults Are Living Paycheck to Paycheck in the US by recursivedoubts on Friday April 28, 2023 @11:25AM (#35742390)
exactly

why produce surplus value if you capture none of it?

Re:More Young Adults Are Living Paycheck to Paycheck in the US by toomuchtodo on Friday April 28, 2023 @11:36AM (#35742561)
In China, this started as “lie flat” and turned into “let it rot.” It’s also a contributing factor in driving down the fertility rate.

https://www.scmp.com/yp/discover/lifestyle/article/3194858/l...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/20/the-last-gener...

Re:More Young Adults Are Living Paycheck to Paycheck in the US by twoheadedboy on Friday April 28, 2023 @11:57AM (#35742993)
Can't help but think this is a consequence of social media. People have dramatically unrealistic expectations on what life should be like.
Re:More Young Adults Are Living Paycheck to Paycheck in the US by mrguyorama on Friday April 28, 2023 @12:35PM (#35743676)
Ah yes, dramatically unrealistic, like functioning public transport, or affordable healthcare, or OWNING A PLACE TO LIVE
Re:More Young Adults Are Living Paycheck to Paycheck in the US by kitsunesoba on Friday April 28, 2023 @12:18PM (#35743395)
That may be a component, but I think another thing that contributes is that unlike Gen X which still somewhat bought into the "American dream", many Millennials and Gen Z watched their parents struggle and ultimately burn out growing up and decided they don't want their lives to be like that. Why constantly stress and sacrifice enjoying today for the sake of an almost entirely fictional tomorrow?
Re:More Young Adults Are Living Paycheck to Paycheck in the US by hellotomyrars on Friday April 28, 2023 @12:20PM (#35743423)
I think the FOMO and enhanced hyper consumerism it enables contributes, but the actual macroeconomic factors around wage growth, etc. are the real problem.
Re:More Young Adults Are Living Paycheck to Paycheck in the US by dwmbt on Friday April 28, 2023 @12:03PM (#35743113)
interesting hypothesis, but my subjective rebuttal is that nearly all of my friends would readily admit that they'd be perfectly content with building a life similar to that of their parents. most kids just don't think it's possible.

i asked in the parent comment if this is a normal thing? my parents were immigrants, so they don't have the experience of growing up here. it's always been an uphill battle. perhaps i've inherited that mentality but i wonder if americans of previous generations were also 23 and cynical, never thinking it possible to afford building a comfortable life?

Re:More Young Adults Are Living Paycheck to Paycheck in the US by AmericanChopper on Friday April 28, 2023 @11:50AM (#35742851)
Growth in productivity is driven by technology, not quality of labor.
Re:More Young Adults Are Living Paycheck to Paycheck in the US by rurp on Friday April 28, 2023 @12:00PM (#35743060)
Skilled labor isn't more productive than unskilled?
Re:More Young Adults Are Living Paycheck to Paycheck in the US by AmericanChopper on Friday April 28, 2023 @12:40PM (#35743731)
Skilled labor isn’t new, and it’s not what’s driven the increase in productivity. I can implement useful computer programs today far faster than Dennis Ritchie could in the 70s, even though he’s far more skilled than I am. That difference in productivity is entirely due to advancements in technology.
Re:More Young Adults Are Living Paycheck to Paycheck in the US by ericjmorey on Friday April 28, 2023 @11:54AM (#35742941)
Productivity of what?
Re:More Young Adults Are Living Paycheck to Paycheck in the US by AmericanChopper on Friday April 28, 2023 @12:25PM (#35743524)
The productivity of labor. Which is simply revenue per hour of labor. When people talk about the increase in worker productivity, that measurement is simply GDP divided by number of hours worked in the economy.

That number has gone up recently, and many people who don’t know what productivity is actually measuring like to comment on the fact that the increase is productivity hasn’t been met with an increase in wages. But that increase has been driven by technology, and the people who are responsible for that increase in productivity capture the value. The people who sell the technology, not the people who sell the labor.

Re:More Young Adults Are Living Paycheck to Paycheck in the US by recursivedoubts on Friday April 28, 2023 @05:55PM (#35747579)
True in general, but you'll be surprised how quickly things can fall apart when labor stops laboring.