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Re:Meet the rednecks running a mutual aid auto shop in Alabama by SoftTalker on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @12:26AM (#35696470)
These sorts of places aren't really that uncommon. This one goes to an extreme, but my town has a co-op garage where people can go and work on their own cars. There isn't a mechanic there, but it's helpful for people who know how to change their oil or put new brake pads on but are not allowed to work on cars where they live.

There is at least one similar shop for bicycle repair, that also does a parts exchange. If you're upgrading your bike, you can leave your old parts for someone else to use.

I'd bet that almost any town of more than 100,000 people, maybe even less, has places like this.

Re:Meet the rednecks running a mutual aid auto shop in Alabama by kqr on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @12:42AM (#35696570)
> There isn't a mechanic there, but it's helpful for people who know how to change their oil or put new brake pads on but are not allowed to work on cars where they live.

If you go at the right time, you can also often find someone who is willing to teach you these things, despite not being a professional mechanic.

Re:Meet the rednecks running a mutual aid auto shop in Alabama by elliotec on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @01:11AM (#35696731)
Mutual Aid _means something_[0], and it's not just places where people share tools to work on their own stuff, but it is that too.

These sorts of places aren't uncommon because maybe, just maybe, that's how things have been for eons and naturally have been as an evolutionary adaptation to millennia of change. In this case, cars are the focus. But one could see the expansion of the concept.

The IQ thing is barely a side story. An attention grabber. People will focus on that, and some will use it to add to the pile of things to care more about the point. But I hope some will accidentally see it as, "hey, smart people do smart things so mutual aid is a smart thing."

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Re:Meet the rednecks running a mutual aid auto shop in Alabama by AndrewKemendo on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @10:41AM (#35701151)
Well said thank you!
Re:Meet the rednecks running a mutual aid auto shop in Alabama by rudyfraser on Monday May 08, 2023 @02:13PM (#35865061)
> "hey, smart people do smart things so mutual aid is a smart thing."

Very happy to have searched "mutual aid" on hacker news today and come across this comment.

Re:Meet the rednecks running a mutual aid auto shop in Alabama by sidewndr46 on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @09:26AM (#35700140)
I've always been curious about this, how do you possibly handle the liability? Somewhere, some entity owns the property. Once one guy drops a brake rotor on his foot and breaks it, who covers the legal expenses?
Re:Meet the rednecks running a mutual aid auto shop in Alabama by bombcar on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @10:35AM (#35701083)
The standard legal answer is pages and pages of documentation that discourage suing. This is rarely actually done in practice.

The reality is you keep it quiet and relatively secret, and you kick out people who smell like legal liability. This answer cannot be stated in public.

Re:Meet the rednecks running a mutual aid auto shop in Alabama by SoftTalker on Wednesday April 26, 2023 @03:58PM (#35719144)
a) The people who use these places are generally not litigious.

b) they sign waivers

c) the shop has insurance

Re:Meet the rednecks running a mutual aid auto shop in Alabama by sidewndr46 on Monday May 01, 2023 @10:49AM (#35773541)
Agreed, but after the first insurance claim my understanding is the insurance rates become prohibitive or they just drop you.

I guess if the assets aren't lost they could be sold off or donated to a similar organization or something in that case however.

Re:Meet the rednecks running a mutual aid auto shop in Alabama by bsder on Tuesday April 25, 2023 @06:16PM (#35707471)
> I'd bet that almost any town of more than 100,000 people, maybe even less, has places like this.

I'd argue the reverse--these kinds of co-ops are more likely to be found in smaller, cheaper, more rural towns. The key to these kinds of places is "cheap real estate with few restrictions".

As soon as the town starts getting too prosperous, they force these kinds of businesses out of the area.