It's a password manager, what's "cool" about it?
1Pwd always rubbed me the wrong way in the way they "take themselves too seriously" and overrate their importance
It's a password manager. They wouldn't even sync to cloud at first iirc, no?
The more boring the better
I just checked and this works fine on macOS
How is that any different than Bitwarden?
I’ve tried to get bitwarden in the enterprise but my boss is old school and has denied the request 4 years running.
Even after they added oauth and account switching to switch between personal and ent vaults.
...which is why this decision is extra infuriating.
As a business, if you don't realize situations like this, you both leave money on the table, and also risk users leaving for another product, which offers the missing functionality explicitly.
For Dropbox it took way longer to get to that point than anyone expected, but Microsoft, Apple, and Google have all copied the Dropbox feature. 1Password is headed in the same direction and Apple is leading the pack in making it redundant. If the password section of Settings in macOS gets a separate app and a way to share passwords, 1P will end up in the same tough spot as Dropbox.
This is similar to the case of iMessage vs WhatsApp, where the lack of a Windows/Android App for iMessage renders it unused by my friends and unpopular in regions where Android phones are prevalent.
This is almost comical. Whenever I report issues, it takes them months to fix them. And sometimes those weren‘t some small edge case problems. One was that non US keyboard users were unable to use special characters in their shortcuts. If they don‘t have the time and resources to fix such problems in a reasonable time frame, what do they think they‘ll gain out of telemetry data? Do they need verification that people use shortcuts before allocating resources?
When prioritizing what we needed in order to launch 1Password 8 we did not prioritize an Apple Watch app. We rarely heard from customers about Apple Watch, and so the assumption was that very few people were using it. When we launched without it, it quickly became apparent that was a poor assumption. People came out of the woodwork to ask where our Apple Watch app went. If we'd had telemetry, we could've known that lots of people were using the Watch app, and just didn't have a reason to write to us about it.
-Ben, 1Password
This is absolutely no justification for telemetry.
It’s still not too late to reverse that decision.
Incidentally, how would telemetry tell you that people miss a removed feature if said telemetry was not in place before removal?
The point was if we'd had telemetry while prioritizing this work, we would've known it was something many people were actually using. The little data we had showed that was not likely the case. Had we known, we would've prioritized differently.
> But there are millions of people using 1Password now, often in cool and innovative ways! If we’re going to keep improving 1Password, we can no longer rely on our own usage and your direct feedback alone.
I wish I were in the room when these arguments were being made. I would like to see the data that led them to this conclusion. I used to work at 1P, I was a happy user before I started working there and I continue to be a happy user. But I can remember so many conversations about telemetry and how we’d never use it…