> Huawei even let the UK secret service inspect Huawei networking gear, e.g. [1, 2, 3]. They only found badly written software, which is hardly unusual.

Which, by the way, is the perfect cover for a backdoor, because it's deniable.

Furthermore, even if you're looking for a back door, there's no guarantee you were actually looking in the right place (for an example, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device))

> A much more likely explanation for the US sanction on Huawei is simply anti-competitive measures.

No, it's 100% geopolitical maneuvering. IIRC, US companies don't even sell competing equipment in many of the relevant areas. You don't need "evidence" of a backdoor in order to distrust something.

'If you want to kill your dog, accuse him of having rabies.' (French proverb)

"Don't let the fox guard the henhouse." (English proverb)

Since we're trading proverbs.

"They pretend to pay us we pretend to work" (Soviet proverb)

That's is a proverb, just not a very apropos one.

Tell me how this doesn't apply to China banning US companies.

Your claim "they complained to their governments to ban the superior competition" is evidence free.

Hilarious that you claim that Huawei is superior tech and yet they have horrible code in the same comment.

Btw, US did find backdoors.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/us-finds-huawei-has-backdoo...

1. So China banning Google, FB, Instagaram and others is China banning superior tech? Got it.

2. China even bans US movies routinely. E.g, Top Gun Maverick was banned due to a tiny Taiwan patch but funnily when the Chinese copycat couldn't live up to it, they did a self ban on it. https://gamerant.com/top-gun-maverick-ripoff-china-canceled-...

Huawei's lead in 5G is well-documented, e.g. [1]. I left the 5G consultancy space in about 2021, but at the time Huawei was the only company that managed to put a CPU and a 5G modem on a single chip. As far as I am aware Qualcomm, Apple, Samsung and MediaTek can also do this in 2023. I'm already not sure if Intel can do this as of April 2023.

Your points (1, 2) have nothing to do with what I have written, why do you side-track the conversation?

[1] https://www.wired.com/story/huawei-5g-polar-codes-data-break...

> Huawei's lead in 5G is well-documented

Well documented in Wired, lol! I would settle for just one peer-reviewed article in a reputed journal.

> backdoors intended for law enforcement

Which law enforcement? Chinese? When did Chinese law become global law?

> Your points (1, 2) have nothing to do with what I have written, why do you side-track the conversation?

They are relevant. They are about companies banning other companies with superior tech by buddying up with the govt.. Claims of sidetracking are usually surfaced when there is no viable defense.

Not to mention, Huawei was caught with its pants down stealing code from Cisco.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/02/13/chinese-company-huawe...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10485560675556000

https://blogs.cisco.com/news/huawei-and-ciscos-source-code-c...

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/13/us-charges-huawei-w...

So how much of this "superior" tech is due to stealing and not putting in the cost for that development?

I could go on, but at this point I will be convincing only neutral rational observers.

> just one peer-reviewed article in a reputed journal.

You are upping the ante! Shouldn't a good leader lead by example? Where is your verifiable evidence of Huawei backdoors? I am working and publish in computer security, I am able to verify backdoors personally. Can you point me to such code?

Anyway, in addition to user "froh"'s points in a sibling post, here are more examples of Huawei technical leadership:

(1) An important NLP benchmark where Huawei is essentially as good as Microsoft and Google.

https://gluebenchmark.com/leaderboard/

(2) Here is insight about who contributes to the Linux kernel:

https://news.itsfoss.com/huawei-kernel-contribution/

(3) Here is a best-paper award at a top conference.

- Paper https://people.mpi-sws.org/~viktor/papers/asplos2021-vsync.p...

- Award https://twitter.com/ASPLOSConf/status/1384162699920044047

> When did Chinese law become global law?

When did US law become global law? The point is: any telecom gear provider that wants to sell telecom gear in the EU or US is required to add law enforcement backdoors.

> Huawei was caught with its pants down stealing code from Cisco.

Like most companies in developing countries, they started out making knock-off gear. Over 3 decades they went from copying other people's ideas to world leadership in 5G. Congratulations!

IIRC, Qualcomm integrated the 5G modem in the 888, which was released in 2020.

I think the 888 was announced in December 2020, I don't recall at what time it was available in significant numbers.

The Mi11 used it in December 2020. The S21 series used it in Jan 21.

Interesting, thanks. I didn't realise that it was already in 2020.

IIRC, Huawei announced its first SoC with integrated 5G modem, the Kirin 990 [1], in September 2019. The Kirin 990 5G was featured in Huawei's flagship smartphone, the Mate 30, which was launched in the same month. So Huawei was only 1 year ahead of Qualcomm on the consumer side.

[1] https://www.notebookcheck.net/HiSilicon-Kirin-990-5G-SoC-Ben...

Likewise - I didn't realize Huawei did it a full year earlier. I wonder if it was a power hungry dog like the qcom...