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Re:Space Elevator by O5vYtytb on Thursday April 20, 2023 @08:27AM (#35638920)
I have to wonder what you mean we're no longer making cool spacecraft? The SpaceX starship is about to launch in an hour, it's very cool.
Re:Space Elevator by millerm on Thursday April 20, 2023 @09:01AM (#35639289)
Watching the countdown now! T-00:28:12! Will be spectacular no matter what happens! Yes, I'm excited. Not sure how the parent comment has missed what SpaceX has been doing with Dragon, Starship, Starlink, and all the rockets! Amazing.
Re:Space Elevator by jackcviers3 on Thursday April 20, 2023 @10:05AM (#35640131)
It exploded when trying to orient for the first stage separation. And it appeared to have 5 of the 33 engines out during the first stage flight. This launch gave me very "Don't Look Up" ending vibes.
Re:Space Elevator by kbelder on Thursday April 20, 2023 @11:10AM (#35641321)
Just the opposite. This is engineer-driven testing.
Re:Space Elevator by jackcviers3 on Thursday April 20, 2023 @11:25AM (#35641558)
I disagree - failures of manned missions set back space flight in half-decade increments. The explosion of Challenger is deeply ingrained in the American psyche. When the rocket tumbled and catastrophically failed, it's all I could think about. I doubt I'm alone.

Also, 5 of the first stage engines failed immediately, and I don't think that was planned.

Couple two major unplanned malfunctions in a single launch test with the weight of manned spaceflight riding in the balance, and it looks more like recklessness than optimism.

The cheering crowd and nonacknowledgement from the announcer of the engine failure and the obvious tumble seemed eerily reminiscent of the final scenes of Don't Look Up.

I'm not against commercial spaceflight. I am against the type of groupthink that led to Challenger, and thought the mission had echoes of that today.

Re:Space Elevator by outworlder on Thursday April 20, 2023 @12:21PM (#35642362)
Yeah. It's one thing to blow up during test firings, or when trying completely novel maneuvers like the belly flop.

It's another thing entirely to do that during stage separation. Sure, historically separation has been risky, but it's nothing novel. They didn't seem to expect the vehicle to survive past that anyways.

There would be a delay even if another vehicle was ready to go - the launch site is a wreck.

Re:Space Elevator by trey-jones on Thursday April 20, 2023 @02:02PM (#35643775)
If you were thrown by the explosion (automated termination, not some catastrophic failure), then you weren't listening to any of the media around the launch. This was a successful mission, gathering data for future launches. Expectations were set appropriately, so I think it's really just your problem for not listening.

In addition, this isn't publicly funded, so it would seem if some of the people get spooked by not understanding the goals of a launch correctly, then it doesn't really matter that much.

Re:Space Elevator by outworlder on Thursday April 20, 2023 @04:31PM (#35645855)
> In addition, this isn't publicly funded, so it would seem if some of the people get spooked by not understanding the goals of a launch correctly, then it doesn't really matter that much.

It does matter that we are scattering debris over a large area for no reason. It does not matter if that was done by the flight termination system or other mechanism.

Re:Space Elevator by RandallBrown on Thursday April 20, 2023 @04:54PM (#35646130)
It wasn't a catastrophic failure, it was self destructed.
Re:Space Elevator by throwawaymobule on Thursday April 20, 2023 @06:58PM (#35647670)
it's amazing how well this works for them. I think this is the main reason they can crank through development so fast. Wish this sort of development was more common.
Re:Space Elevator by millerm on Monday April 24, 2023 @11:27AM (#35688821)
The grand applause when they blew it up showed that it was a success.
Re:Space Elevator by dormento on Thursday April 27, 2023 @04:58PM (#35734481)
Well to be faaaaaair, they were properly "primed" to applaud and call it a success, no matter what happened. But yeah, infinite money does that to you: you can operate in "fail fast" mode and obtain results you could not otherwise.
Re:Space Elevator by csomar on Thursday April 20, 2023 @10:39AM (#35640765)
Yep. But you'd expect that we'd have more given how much technology has advanced and how bigger the economies are now. The recent progress is mostly due to Billionaires now.

Another possibility is: Space is too hard. So instead the focus is to analyze (ie: James Webb) instead of sending a human there.

Re:Space Elevator by piyh on Thursday April 20, 2023 @10:53AM (#35641023)
The incentives for going to space are limited to more economic sensibility when you don't have a dick measuring contest going on between great powers.