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Re:iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps... by sergiotapia on Monday April 17, 2023 @10:15AM (#35601006)
None of this affects you whatsoever. Just don't use a sideloaded apps. I don't see why this would bother you in any way.

Personally if Apple finally allows me to install whatever I want on my phones then I may return to their phones. Until then, I will use Android since I can download and install any .apk I want on my device.

Re:iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps... by mort96 on Monday April 17, 2023 @10:40AM (#35601442)
> None of this affects you whatsoever. Just don't use a sideloaded apps. I don't see why this would bother you in any way.

That's unfortunately wrong.

Say you use WhatsApp to keep in touch with your friends. Say Facebook pulls WhatsApp from the app store and makes it only available via side-loading. What do you do? You have to decide between trying to move everyone you know off of WhatsApp, or you side-load.

Re:iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps... by sergiotapia on Monday April 17, 2023 @11:31AM (#35602280)
Why are you conjuring up this unprecedented hypothetical?
Re:iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps... by mort96 on Monday April 17, 2023 @11:39AM (#35602365)
Because it doesn't seem implausible? Apple allowing side-loading is unprecedented, we can't say from experience how companies will respond to the ability to side-load.

The closest analog we have is Android, where side-loading is permitted. Google Play is much more lenient than the App Store, so there's less incentive for companies to make their apps sideload-only than on iOS, yet some companies have already done it. Alternative software stores are also a thing there.

I'm also not against side-loading. I think, as the owner of the device, I should be able to put software on it without Apple's permission. My only point here is that there are ways in which people who don't have to may be forced into side-loading software, meaning "just don't side-load if you don't want" is too simplistic.

Re:iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps... by peoplefromibiza on Monday April 17, 2023 @11:41AM (#35602398)
> Say Facebook pulls WhatsApp from the app store and makes it only available via side-loading.

Say a meteorite hits the Earth and we all die.

In a completely hypothetical scenario there are much worse things that can happen than Facebook voluntarily pulling WhatsApp from the App store, forcing their users to side-load the gaining nothing on the permissions side of the bargain while at the same time losing a majority of their users or even more probably having users that won't update to the newer versions of it.

Re:iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps... by filchermcurr on Monday April 17, 2023 @11:47AM (#35602472)
An unattractive decision is still a decision you can make.

If you believe so strongly that you shouldn't sideload applications, you absolutely have the choice to not do it. It may not be a choice that you like, but it is a choice available to you. Which I think is what's so wonderful about this whole situation. It's opening up options that were previously unavailable.

Besides, this kind of Sophie's Choice has been around forever. Your friends all use Facebook Messenger but you're morally against Meta. Do you compromise your principles so you can see gifs your friends post or do you stand your ground and potentially miss out?

It's just a variation on another theme that's been around for ages. Only this time it actually adds exciting possibilities rather than a binary 'use' or 'don't use' choice.

Re:iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps... by mort96 on Monday April 17, 2023 @11:54AM (#35602585)
There's a potential that someone who's currently using some app without side-loading won't have the opportunity to keep using the app without side-loading as a result of a decision to allow side-loading. That means "this decision doesn't affect you, just keep using apps without side-loading" isn't a valid statement.

You're right that everyone will technically always have the choice not to side-load. Just like everyone technically has the choice to not own a phone in the first place. It's the "it doesn't affect you whatsoever" part I take issue with.

Re:iOS 17 will reportedly set the stage for sideloading apps... by HDThoreaun on Monday April 17, 2023 @03:53PM (#35605694)
Facebook isn't pulling any of their apps from the App Store. That's just baseless fear mongering.