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Re:Chipotle plans to ditch gas grills at 100 new locations by crazygringo on Thursday April 13, 2023 @07:18PM (#35563476)
In a previous apartment that had an electric range, I was prepared to be super bummed out when cooking, and I cook a lot.

I was shocked to absolutely fall in love with it. I'm back to gas now in a new apartment and it's sad.

Modern electric simply gets so much hotter so much faster. It's like the ultimate luxury. It's true I had to get used to sliding the pan off the heat instead of turning down the gas, but that's easy.

For me, there's zero sensory loss. It's not like you really ever even see the flame anyways since it's covered by the pan. Everything sensory about cooking is the sizzle in the pan, not what's heating it underneath.

And there's nothing sad about a concerted political effort -- that's what efforts are for, to improve public health by reducing emissions and reducing childhood asthma.

(Outdoor charcoal grills are another matter, I'll admit though -- for the heat and the char and the smoke flavor, there's no electric equivalent.)

Re:Chipotle plans to ditch gas grills at 100 new locations by Gigachad on Thursday April 13, 2023 @07:28PM (#35563567)
I won't rent an apartment with a gas stove these days. Not only is it extremely slow to heat liquids, it's also an incredible pain in the ass to clean and you have to be extra careful to ventilate the area to reduce the amount of air pollution being created.
Re:Chipotle plans to ditch gas grills at 100 new locations by etrautmann on Friday April 14, 2023 @03:52AM (#35566698)
Yep! So many advantages of induction.
Re:Chipotle plans to ditch gas grills at 100 new locations by jwestbury on Friday April 14, 2023 @04:12AM (#35566836)
> Not only is it extremely slow to heat liquids

This isn't a function of fuel, it's a function of output, which varies model-by-model. I have an electric stove/hob in my flat in London, and it takes -- no joke -- well over 30 minutes to boil two litres of water.

Conversely, my last house in the US before moving to the UK had a 25,000 BTU gas burner which was so hot that you could barely use it. It boiled water extremely quickly, and it was great for seasoning cast iron because of how quickly it would reach temperature and polymerise the oil. The whole setup was also easy to clean, as pretty much the entire thing came apart. Sure, not quite as easy as a glass top, but it also wouldn't get scratched all to hell by sliding my cast iron around.

Re:Chipotle plans to ditch gas grills at 100 new locations by OJFord on Thursday April 13, 2023 @08:12PM (#35563928)
I think there's a large class of people unduly turned off non-gas by experience with non-induction (conduction) electric hobs. They are/were pretty crap - slightly better than gas in limited ways; with other drawbacks, including more expensive.

Induction brings the price down to a point where you need to look at temporal regional prices, isn't hot when it's turned off, and delivers significant power highly efficiently, with a very easy to clean surface. I don't see why the ultimate kitchen needs any kind of hob but induction and proper (massive upward flame for when the flame itself is actually in use) wok burners.

Re:Chipotle plans to ditch gas grills at 100 new locations by djur on Thursday April 13, 2023 @09:41PM (#35564531)
Even glass-covered resistance electric stovetops are better than they used to be. I'm perfectly satisfied with mine. The handful of recipes where it's useful to have an open flame can often be accomplished with a hand torch or the broiler. My next stove will be induction, but in the meantime I'm not missing gas.
Re:Chipotle plans to ditch gas grills at 100 new locations by OJFord on Thursday April 13, 2023 @11:28PM (#35565202)
What are your open flame uses that can be achieved with a grill or handheld? I would have said they are extremely few, but not really substitutable (except that in pan on any hob type is already a substitute) - wok (engulfed in flame such that it's not just bottom heated), phulka/similar breads (charred and blown up more effectively on naked flame) and I can't think what else?
Re:Chipotle plans to ditch gas grills at 100 new locations by djur on Saturday April 15, 2023 @12:16PM (#35581995)
One common method of roasting peppers is to do it over an open flame, but you can do it with a broiler. You can also use a torch to improve the flavor of stir fries if you don't have a high-BTU wok burner:

https://www.seriouseats.com/hei-now-youre-a-wok-star-a-fiery...