Re:Employee Asked to Go Remote, Job Outsourced to India
by jdmtheNth on Thursday April 13, 2023 @11:27AM
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Similar to auto workers unions pricing their members out of competition until the jobs get sent out of the country. You can only push employers so far before they realize that everyone is replaceable.
Re:Employee Asked to Go Remote, Job Outsourced to India
by gpapilion on Thursday April 13, 2023 @11:33AM
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I wondered when this narrative would start. Companies want employees back in the office, and are starting to dial up the fear to do it.
This story seems based on a comment a CEO made and nothing more than that. It does highlight real issues with remote work, such as what is it that your are paying a us worker for vs a worker from a cheap labor market?
Re:Employee Asked to Go Remote, Job Outsourced to India
by commandlinefan on Thursday April 13, 2023 @11:45AM
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> that your are paying a us worker for vs a worker from a cheap labor market?
If this worked, they would have done it in 1995. I know, because they (and by they I mean absolutely every single living corporate executive) tried. Again, and again, and again.
Re:Employee Asked to Go Remote, Job Outsourced to India
by asdajksah2123 on Thursday April 13, 2023 @03:40PM
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Also relevantly, Indians are much more willing to move back to India today, where an IT job (especially with an American company), will allow them a much better standard of living than what they have in the US.
Re:Employee Asked to Go Remote, Job Outsourced to India
by more_corn on Thursday April 13, 2023 @03:06PM
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Follow up in 3 months. “Job outsourced to India an abject failure. We wasted so much time and effort it wasn’t funny.”
I don’t even feel the need to warn anybody anymore. They’ll figure it out.
Re:Employee Asked to Go Remote, Job Outsourced to India
by ratg13 on Thursday April 13, 2023 @05:32PM
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Anyone who’s ever outsourced to India knows what a horrible mess it can be.
The biggest problem is the timezone differences.. it basically slows down everything by at least a factor of 2x
Then there are issues with the talent. Most of the time resumes are inflated, knowledge is faked, people are swapped without your knowledge, etc.
If you’re only hiring one person they might know how to do the work, but they are often not skilled and end up making extremely poor architecture decisions that will cost exponentially more to manage long term than hiring someone knowledgeable to do it right.
Even hiring the best Tata consultants, you’re still dealing with a mixed bag.. and it’s gonna cost you as much as someone local anyway.
Short sighted businesses people will try and make decisions like this that look good on paper and they will have moved on to a new company before the current company realizes how badly the shortsighted decision making has hurt them.
This story seems based on a comment a CEO made and nothing more than that. It does highlight real issues with remote work, such as what is it that your are paying a us worker for vs a worker from a cheap labor market?
If this worked, they would have done it in 1995. I know, because they (and by they I mean absolutely every single living corporate executive) tried. Again, and again, and again.
The biggest problem is the timezone differences.. it basically slows down everything by at least a factor of 2x
Then there are issues with the talent. Most of the time resumes are inflated, knowledge is faked, people are swapped without your knowledge, etc.
If you’re only hiring one person they might know how to do the work, but they are often not skilled and end up making extremely poor architecture decisions that will cost exponentially more to manage long term than hiring someone knowledgeable to do it right.
Even hiring the best Tata consultants, you’re still dealing with a mixed bag.. and it’s gonna cost you as much as someone local anyway.
Short sighted businesses people will try and make decisions like this that look good on paper and they will have moved on to a new company before the current company realizes how badly the shortsighted decision making has hurt them.