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Re:KDE Plasma Is Not a Desktop Environment by chungy on Thursday April 13, 2023 @04:18AM (#35552494)
The branding got confused down the road. It was simply KDE for over a decade (maybe two? I don't remember the timing precisely). Then suddenly, a rebrand, KDE is the community of developers and users and Plasma was the desktop environment. Which just about everyone continues to call it KDE.

KDE is a better understood brand than Plasma. It might always be so.

Re:KDE Plasma Is Not a Desktop Environment by atoav on Thursday April 13, 2023 @04:35AM (#35552612)
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Re:KDE Plasma Is Not a Desktop Environment by alxlaz on Thursday April 13, 2023 @04:51AM (#35552726)
> After all the KDE family of applications in it's totality also represents some sort of ecosystem that one may use.

Sorry I gotta ruin your day but KDE applications means something else entirely in the KDE branding parlance: https://apps.kde.org/en-gb/ . It's a bunch of apps except Plasma and a few applications that are actually developed as part of plasma, like System Settings, Discover and a few others.

See why everyone hates this :-D ?

Re:KDE Plasma Is Not a Desktop Environment by account42 on Thursday April 13, 2023 @04:42AM (#35552662)
The KDE-is-now-the-community rebranding is definitely corporate PR tier cringe. Was sad to see an open source project emulate that bs.
Re:KDE Plasma Is Not a Desktop Environment by usrusr on Thursday April 13, 2023 @05:20AM (#35552948)
As an outsider (haven't used KDE in 15 years) I perceived "Plasma" as just a fancy "very major" version number. The usual post-semver insecurity: "if every change has to be a major increment if it can't be guaranteed to be an unfailing drop-in replacement in every corner case scenario, how do I express a larger change?" Not nice, but far from cringe. But I certainly won't rule or that this is just me enjoying the blessings of ignorance :)

I find it more concerning how the author celebrates all those hypothetical device classes, instead of focusing on being good at one thing (desktops). Feels a bit like being stuck in time loop where Windows 8 is still the hottest new thing (it never was, got ridiculed from the start). But again, I might be wrong, if there are non-desktop use cases that are not only live in production but also major contributors (perhaps something like large TV brands building on/building Plasma for their UI?), then they have made all the right calls.

off topic: feels a bit weird to read through that very talkative YouTube monologue style, that's probably contributing a lot to my perception. But, wow, so much better to have a transcript than the video itself!

Re:KDE Plasma Is Not a Desktop Environment by moxvallix on Thursday April 13, 2023 @04:52AM (#35552728)
Don’t agree. The vast amount of KDE related projects meant that the name described so much more than just a desktop environment.
Re:KDE Plasma Is Not a Desktop Environment by guax on Thursday April 13, 2023 @05:19AM (#35552938)
They should've renamed the organisation instead of reassign meaning. K Desktop Environment is still seared in my mind.

It would be simpler to have KDE under whatever name instead of renaming KDE to Plasma + Friends.