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Re:Now live for all: Substack Notes by lapcat on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @08:45PM (#35533694)
> This notes thing looks like an attempt to pivot to an advertising based business model

It's not. Substack is very clear about that. https://on.substack.com/p/notes-faq

"The ultimate goal on Substack is to convert casual readers into paying subscribers. Because the Substack network runs on paid subscriptions, writers are rewarded for respecting the trust and attention of their audiences, not exploiting it like with ad-based social media."

"While Notes may look similar to social media feeds, the key difference is in what you don’t see. The Substack network runs on paid subscriptions, not ads. It’s social media with a heart transplant."

Re:Now live for all: Substack Notes by Incipient on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @03:36AM (#35536195)
Because no company would ever lie about their intentions, or at the very least pivot to the exact opposite of their original point without a second thought.

Would they?

Re:Now live for all: Substack Notes by k_pres on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @06:37AM (#35537550)
Clearly not. No company would ever betray their original principles for the opportunity to make more money in the short term
Re:Now live for all: Substack Notes by lapcat on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @07:12AM (#35537811)
The question is not whether they can lie, theoretically. Yes, I can be as cynical as anyone in the world, but that's no great intellectual accomplishment without insight. Substack has no practical motive to lie, because that would just alienate the Substack writers upon whom Substack depends essentially. If the writers leave the platform, then Substack is absolutely nothing, worthless.

Furthermore, "only signed-in users will be able to post notes, see the feed of Notes, and engage with notes." The inability to read feeds while not logged in makes Substack Notes much more hostile to casual browsers compared to Twitter. That's not a very eyeball friendly policy. I don't see how they can even be intending to replace Twitter that way. I'd personally want to see what Notes are like before signing up for Substack, but I can't do that.

Occam's razor suggests that the purpose of Substack Notes is straightforward: to create more engagement between Substack writers and Substack subscribers. It seems like a good idea for that purpose. But a Twitter replacement? If that's the intention, it's designed totally wrong.

Re:Now live for all: Substack Notes by shanebellone on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @08:11AM (#35538380)
"Because no company would ever lie about their intentions, or at the very least pivot to the exact opposite of their original point without a second thought."

No business would pivot to a dying monetization model unless it was their last option.

Advertising is not a solution for Substack; but rather a Trojan Horse.

Re:Now live for all: Substack Notes by v0idzer0 on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @01:31PM (#35543475)
As much as I wish this were to true, it’s objectively false. Digital advertising is a healthy industry that powers many profitable companies. Substack is not profitable and torching money even with a 10% claim on wroters’ subscription revenue
Re:Now live for all: Substack Notes by rchaud on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @06:27PM (#35547910)
Dying monetization model? Is that why Microsoft, Amazon and Apple App Store are splattering their properties with them like a Jackson Pollock painting?
Re:Now live for all: Substack Notes by shanebellone on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @08:20PM (#35549073)
Those are ecosystems that operate a fundamentally different model ("dream scenario").
Re:Now live for all: Substack Notes by s3p on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @11:01PM (#35550361)
Aaaah someone disagrees with my point of view so they must be lying!