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Re:GNU+Linux laptops with Libreboot preinstalled, based on c... by charcircuit on Sunday April 09, 2023 @01:42PM (#35504826)
What's special about RISC-V? How does companies not having to pay for using an ISA in a processor having anything to do with whether they implement other processors inside of their processor?
Re:GNU+Linux laptops with Libreboot preinstalled, based on c... by snvzz on Sunday April 09, 2023 @02:38PM (#35505260)
Being compatible with the standard ISA is itself a benefit.
Re:GNU+Linux laptops with Libreboot preinstalled, based on c... by anonym29 on Sunday April 09, 2023 @07:02PM (#35507322)
It's not that RISC-V guarantees truly transparent firmware and microcode; as you correctly point out, it does not.

What RISC-V offers is the possibility of truly transparent firmware and microcode. This comes as a refreshing alternative to x86, which guarantees that firmware and microcode, including those of security coprocessors (e.g. Intel CSME & AMD ST, formerly ME and PSP) will not be transparent.

Re:GNU+Linux laptops with Libreboot preinstalled, based on c... by wmf on Monday April 10, 2023 @12:41AM (#35509240)
ARM offers the same possibility but there's like one SoC that's fully transparent.
Re:GNU+Linux laptops with Libreboot preinstalled, based on c... by anonym29 on Monday April 10, 2023 @09:19AM (#35511923)
I am not as well-versed in the specifics of ARM's TrustZone as I am with Intel CSME and AMD ST, but I understand many of the people uncomfortable with the latter two are uncomfortable with the former as well. I do not believe it comes with the same capabilities as CSME or ST (PSP), but I do know that earlier versions of PSP were implemented using an ARM TrustZone core. That said, I need to do a lot more reading and research on it before forming more substantial positions on it.
Re:GNU+Linux laptops with Libreboot preinstalled, based on c... by wmf on Monday April 10, 2023 @04:34PM (#35517067)
AFAIK you can build an ARM SoC without TrustZone (or without using TrustZone for anything) if you want.
Re:GNU+Linux laptops with Libreboot preinstalled, based on c... by 7to2 on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @06:52AM (#35523310)
ARM offers the same possibility.. in exchange for a fee and a stack of NDAs. Competition and openness is how we should deal with this disease.