Musk is a founder in literally every sense of the word. He joined the company early, was a key investor, designed early products, and had a major leadership role (chairman of the board and then CEO) - from the start. In addition, the matter has been adjudicated in a court of law - Musk is a founder. The company Tesla recognizes him as a founder.

Against the overwhelming and undisputed evidence and common sense you have only childish insults. You don't even try to make your case. Sad, but at least you know you're wrong.

You can't attack fellow users like this on HN. I've banned the account.

No one is saying you owe $billionaire better but you certainly owe this community much better if you're participating here.

If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email [email protected] and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.