Re:Russia is persecuting dissenters by taking away their chi...
by throwaway60701 on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @09:03AM
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It's not impossible at all. Russians flying to Turkey for a vacation is still normal - yes, even ordinary middle class people. My friends living in EU are using this to meet with their family in safety.
Re:Russia is persecuting dissenters by taking away their chi...
by _visgean on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @09:06AM
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I think you can easily fly to turkey and then anywhere else. Would not even be that expensive to get from istanbul to sofia..
With regards to visa some friends applied for student visa and that seems to work quite ok.
Re:Russia is persecuting dissenters by taking away their chi...
by 5e92cb50239222b on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @09:54AM
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> Would not even be that expensive
Let me remind everyone reading this that a "typical" salary in Russia is 30-40k rubles per month. They don't publish the median, and the mean is absolutely useless. This will maybe buy you a one-way ticket to a neighboring country, but how are you going to survive afterwards?
Re:Russia is persecuting dissenters by taking away their chi...
by chupasaurus on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @09:18AM
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Moscow - Astana flight with luggage is ~230 USD, railroad is even cheaper, that's about all the additional expenses. The visas are the main issue.
Re:Russia is persecuting dissenters by taking away their chi...
by luckylion on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @09:28AM
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That's very inaccurate. The German case states that the possibility to be drafted alone doesn't constitute grounds for asylum, you need some form individual persecution (because of ethnicity, gender, sexuality, religion etc) in Germany. "I got charged because my daughter drew a picture that called for peace" will be a very different case than "I'd rather not fight personally".
It's not new either, it has pretty much always been that way. A lot of German politicians are calling for exceptions for Russians (which would effectively end the practice for all countries) to weaken Russia's ability to draft more people.
¹ germany: https://www.proasyl.de/en/news/germany-federal-office-for-mi... ² finland: https://thebarentsobserver.com/ru/node/189