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Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by rvz on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @05:29AM (#35451492)
> Nothing will change.

What would it take for it to change? Really? It is never too late to change.

But right now, the SF tech travel agents here and in the comments section are going to have a hard time at pitching that the city is 'safe' for them and now have to admit that it has gotten worse.

But maybe we should start with identifying the 'problem' which has something to do with 'who' is running those streets and seeing if there is a patten in other cities in the US...

Once you know, you will find your answer.

Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by notsosec on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @06:37AM (#35451951)
Some commenters mentioned Estonia. Might be worth seeing what could be different between Estonia and San Francisco in terms of demographics that could be related to crime.
Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by atlasunshrugged on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @07:57AM (#35452577)
Or state capacity? Education quality and equality measurements?
Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by seydor on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @06:53AM (#35452045)
I smell Robocop Startups rising
Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by bobsmooth on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @06:55AM (#35452063)
>What would it take for it to change?

Putting criminals in jail and keeping them there.

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Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by lizardking on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @07:25AM (#35452307)
Articulating the problem is political suicide in San Francisco and in most other progressive leaning cities as well. People pretend to not notice and or attribute the crime to other variables. It is impossible to fix a problem you won’t even identify, or have been gas lit out of being able to recognize.
Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by getlawgdon on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @07:46AM (#35452475)
So you agree then that the problems are institutionalized racism and lack of access to opportunity and resources, and that an associated problem would he posting a blantantly racist comment such as the one ypu tacitly approved by failing to outline the problems. Oh and thus actively enunciated the racist part.
Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by lizardking on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @07:53AM (#35452542)
Exhibit A
Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by getlawgdon on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @10:38AM (#35455035)
Exhibit zero.
Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by snapdeus on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @07:29AM (#35452332)
What is your goal here? To spread racism?
Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by dang on Thursday April 06, 2023 @09:20PM (#35476872)
"Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead."

a.k.a. please don't feed the trolls

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by harimau777 on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @07:24AM (#35452299)
The problem is that the people saying those sorts of things also tolerate police brutality and oppose addressing the poverty issues that are behind much crime.
Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by lr4444lr on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @08:11AM (#35452748)
The equation of crime with or causation by poverty is well refuted by many locales worldwide.
Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by dang on Thursday April 06, 2023 @09:21PM (#35476876)
Please don't do this here.
Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t... by atdrummond on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @07:09AM (#35452175)
I personally think the issue is that SF residents are like the frog in the boiling pot. Things only get a tiny, incrementally bit worse year by year. We get immune to the changes and begin to accommodate things we never would have in decades past.

I’m worried that there’s going to be a massive collapse of the tax base long before any serious reform attempts.