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Re:Airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners by 0xDEF on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @03:36AM (#35436325)
There were dozens of terror attacks against air travel in the 80s and 90s. The global post-9/11 "security theater" did make flying in the developing world much safer.
Re:Airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners by lostlogin on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @03:39AM (#35436339)
Really? So that’s attributable to us not carrying bottles of water and to us taking our shoes off?
Re:Airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners by thfuran on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @08:47AM (#35438759)
Yes, everyone knows that terrorists can't take off their shoes.
Re:Airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners by Grimburger on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @03:44AM (#35436377)
There's been dozens of hijackings since 9/11

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hijackings#20...

Re:Airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners by helsinkiandrew on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @04:04AM (#35436508)
To be fair there's been a lot less hijackings in the 2000s and 2010s compared with previous decades - although as the decline started in the 90's - its not likely to be solely due to increased security.
Re:Airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners by littlestymaar on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @08:43AM (#35438710)
It has to do with several things, among them you have:

- the end of the cold war, with the clear hegemony of the US which halted state-sponsored terrorism from unaligned-but-socialist-minded countries (especially Libya)

- targeted assassination of terrorist leaders and infrastructures (no more training summer camps) no matter the country they are in (mostly through drones nowadays), leading to a progressive reduction in sophistication in terror attacks committed, and the rise of lone wolfs instead of structured terrorist commandos.

Re:Airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners by TulliusCicero on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @04:21AM (#35436644)
That lists twenty, and the minimum to be "dozens" would be 24.
Re:Airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners by cfiggers on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @08:36AM (#35438626)
Grammatically, 1.5 donut is wrong and 1.5 donuts is correct. So, in this case "1.66~ dozens" (because 20 / 12 = 1.66~) is pedantically correct.

(...But logically and intuitively everything I just said is extremely stupid because by that logic 12.01 counts as "dozens" and that's ridiculous, so your complaint is absolutely correct and I agree with you 100%)

Re:Airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners by recursive on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:55AM (#35440656)
Grammatically, 0.2 donut is wrong also. So by that logic, 0.01 also counts as dozens.

I'd argue that "dozens" obviously means there are a multiple of 12.

Re:Airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners by orangepurple on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @11:47AM (#35441519)
In the late 1960s and early 1970s, hijackings occurred, on average, once every five days globally.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/a-brief-history-of-ai...

Re:Airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners by actionfromafar on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:20AM (#35440064)
I always attributed that to:

  - before 9/11, the advice was: sit down in your seat and wait for the ransom demands

  - after 9/11: fight for your life now or die in a blaze of fire
Hijackers must feel this too. No quarter will be given.
Re:Airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners by delecti on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:58AM (#35440715)
Wasn't that a contributing factor to UA93 being "unsuccessful"? The passengers had gotten word of the other three flights, and stopped being quite as compliant (though "compliant" is obviously not the full story for the other three flights).
Re:Airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners by actionfromafar on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:59AM (#35440737)
Yes! Without this incident, I wouldn't be as optimistic about people fighting back. Turns out, people can be pretty rational after all.
Re:Airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners by dtech on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @12:53PM (#35442572)
The TSA checks are ineffective, they fail detection 95% of the time [1]. That's a pretty good indication that it's security theater.

Personally, I'd expect the decrease to be mostly attributable to increased cockpit access security like locked reinforced doors.

[1] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/investigation-breaches-...