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Re:Starlink internet is going from rural savior to unreliabl... by marcyb5st on Monday April 03, 2023 @04:50AM (#35420447)
2.5 Gb/s symmetrical is a sweet deal. Here in Italy in a town of 3k people I got "only" a 1Gb/s symmetrical, but so far I can't complain. It costs 25€/month so it's a pretty great deal
Re:Starlink internet is going from rural savior to unreliabl... by zwirbl on Monday April 03, 2023 @07:11AM (#35421563)
and here in Austria I just cannot get symmetrical, running on 1000/50 Mb/s right now
Re:Starlink internet is going from rural savior to unreliabl... by ChuckNorris89 on Monday April 03, 2023 @07:40AM (#35421825)
Well, consumers in Austria and Germany have by far the shittiest internet in all of EU.

That's what you get when you let your politicians sell you out to monopolists.

Re:Starlink internet is going from rural savior to unreliabl... by iforgotpassword on Monday April 03, 2023 @10:10AM (#35423848)
Thank you Mr. Dr. Helmut Kohl!
Re:Starlink internet is going from rural savior to unreliabl... by guenthert on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:37PM (#35426891)
Just a few years ago our office (two floors, Fortune 500 company, more than 100 people on site) had a 100Mbps connection to the Internet (and a dedicated 1Gbps to a branch office). We had video conferences, mirrored OSS and back'ed up over the 'net. The dedicated link was at times a bottleneck, but I don't recall that the link to the Internet ever was.

With the shift to cloud computing, at least in the awkward hybrid phase, that won't suffice for a business of that size, but it really isn't obvious what a single person would _need_ a gigabit connection for. Perhaps you can elaborate.

Re:Starlink internet is going from rural savior to unreliabl... by marcyb5st on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:06PM (#35429576)
Honestly, I don't saturate my connection 99% of the time. I could have done that 10/15 years ago when I used to torrent a lot.

The download part is great because now it's faster to buy a game on steam for instance and download it than getting in the car, driving to the closest store to purchase a physical copy and bring it home.

Regarding the upload, I built a small utility that stores the videos from the cameras I have at home to the cloud in a rolling window (I didn't want to pay the service from the cameras provider). So at any time I am uploading something like 7 1080p streams (it's more bursty as I chunk the streams every 10 minutes and upload the resulting files). So, while 1Gb is still an overkill, once you have the bandwidth you find uses for it.

Re:Starlink internet is going from rural savior to unreliabl... by thfuran on Monday April 03, 2023 @07:30AM (#35421732)
And here I am in the US in a metro area with a population of over a million and I can't get fiber despite AT&T having come door to door hawking their service on the premise that they were installing fiber. Clearly there's just not enough people in my area and it's impossible.
Re:Starlink internet is going from rural savior to unreliabl... by rascul on Monday April 03, 2023 @08:32AM (#35422415)
I'm in rural Mississippi. AT&T buried fiber lines here a number of years back and never lit them up. I think there were some grants or something. Power company coop ran fiber last year though so AT&T can go to hell.
Re:Starlink internet is going from rural savior to unreliabl... by allenrb on Monday April 03, 2023 @10:03AM (#35423736)
I’m with you on that. I live in Evanston, IL. For those unaware, it is the first city north of Chicago along Lake Michigan. Hardly a backwater.

On the one hand, I have two competing cable providers (RCN/Astound and Comcast/Xfinity). Being able to swap between services as offers change has been huge (hey, competition is a thing!) Currently I’ve got 1400/40 (measured) on Xfinity.

But fiber? Totally absent. AT&T seems to serve other areas nearby but not mine. Why? No clue. But I’d sure love having a symmetric connection.

Incidentally, there are multiple fiber cables strung on the poles in the alley behind my house. Presumably they are the infrastructure for our two cables cos.

Re:Starlink internet is going from rural savior to unreliabl... by marcyb5st on Monday April 03, 2023 @02:53PM (#35429358)
Ouch. Sorry to hear that. I remember speaking with colleagues in various parts of the US (mostly Seattle and Silicon valley areas) and I was shocked by how expensive and relatively low quality internet and mobile connections compared to most of western Europe. I guess having de-facto cartels in AT&T, Verizon, ... that don't encroach in each other territory is a terrible thing