Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w...
by neither_color on Sunday April 02, 2023 @04:31PM
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I can think of several globally destructive concepts falsely attributed to America that actually cane from Europe.
Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w...
by relativ575 on Sunday April 02, 2023 @06:09PM
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> are actively trying to export themselves to Europe
What are the evidence of this? Has there been an uptick in American right-wings activities in Europe?
Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w...
by pyrale on Monday April 03, 2023 @02:31AM
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An example of it:
https://www.politico.eu/article/roe-vs-wade-us-the-european-...
Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w...
by revelio on Monday April 03, 2023 @05:20AM
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That's not a cultural export. Opposition to abortion is found around the world and European abortion laws were generally more tough than US laws before Roe v Wade was overturned. Opposition to abortion is largely associated with Catholicism which is far stronger in Europee and Latin America than North America.
Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w...
by RestlessMind on Sunday April 02, 2023 @07:50PM
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> Your far-right political movements
A nit - it seems the US far-right is adopting tactics from European far-right history and not the other way around. Trump literally used the words "blood and soil" at some point and Fox is mastering the art of propaganda.
Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w...
by pyrale on Monday April 03, 2023 @02:30AM
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If the granularity of your analysis is the century, you may have a point. Otherwise, Europe has experienced a significant decrease of far-right activity and popularity between WW2 and the 2000's, approximately.
Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w...
by RestlessMind on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:44PM
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Why constrain to a weird length of 75-80 years? Despots can and do learn from history which can easily span a few hundred years, if not more. Heck, you have videos of 1930s fascists' speeches on Youtube.
Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w...
by pyrale on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:04PM
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> Why constrain to a weird length of 75-80 years?
Because I'm talking of a recent trend, and this timeframe offers a relevant context.
Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w...
by RestlessMind on Monday April 03, 2023 @06:58PM
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But your original assertion is that American far-right movement is being exported to Europe. Now if you are going to stop precisely at the moment when European fascism (which has a big influence on American far right) died down, then obviously that's going to be tautological. So not sure that qualifies as American export to Europe.
Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w...
by pyrale on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @04:44AM
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You're making big semantic leaps here.You seem to be wanting to deny the claim that "the US are the origin of far-right ideology and pushing it to Europe", but that's not the point I'm making. My point is that, in recent times, the cultural flow goes this way. It's also one item in a list of other domains where the flow also goes this way.
Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w...
by drstewart on Sunday April 02, 2023 @08:06PM
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>Your far-right political movements, especially religious movements, are actively trying to export themselves to Europe, with varying success depending on the specific trend.
Please explain, in detail, what part of Golden Dawn was actively exported from the US.
Your far-right political movements, especially religious movements, are actively trying to export themselves to Europe, with varying success depending on the specific trend.
A large part of corporate culture, as people in EU management still long for an idealized version of what exists in the US.
Outside of a few pockets, EU entertainment has more or less completely been wiped out now, so any culture borne by entertainment is mostly US now.