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Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by uejfiweun on Sunday April 02, 2023 @03:22PM (#35414127)
> rather the way of thinking about the world.

As an American who has lived in the US my whole life, it can be tough to see outside the box, so to speak. What parts of the US worldview are being exported? How does it differ with traditional attitudes?

Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by pyrale on Sunday April 02, 2023 @03:29PM (#35414193)
A few examples:

Your far-right political movements, especially religious movements, are actively trying to export themselves to Europe, with varying success depending on the specific trend.

A large part of corporate culture, as people in EU management still long for an idealized version of what exists in the US.

Outside of a few pockets, EU entertainment has more or less completely been wiped out now, so any culture borne by entertainment is mostly US now.

Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by neither_color on Sunday April 02, 2023 @04:31PM (#35414858)
I can think of several globally destructive concepts falsely attributed to America that actually cane from Europe.
Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by relativ575 on Sunday April 02, 2023 @06:09PM (#35415798)
> are actively trying to export themselves to Europe

What are the evidence of this? Has there been an uptick in American right-wings activities in Europe?

Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by pyrale on Monday April 03, 2023 @02:31AM (#35419335)
Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by revelio on Monday April 03, 2023 @05:20AM (#35420643)
That's not a cultural export. Opposition to abortion is found around the world and European abortion laws were generally more tough than US laws before Roe v Wade was overturned. Opposition to abortion is largely associated with Catholicism which is far stronger in Europee and Latin America than North America.
Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by RestlessMind on Sunday April 02, 2023 @07:50PM (#35416695)
> Your far-right political movements

A nit - it seems the US far-right is adopting tactics from European far-right history and not the other way around. Trump literally used the words "blood and soil" at some point and Fox is mastering the art of propaganda.

Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by pyrale on Monday April 03, 2023 @02:30AM (#35419320)
If the granularity of your analysis is the century, you may have a point. Otherwise, Europe has experienced a significant decrease of far-right activity and popularity between WW2 and the 2000's, approximately.
Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by RestlessMind on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:44PM (#35426998)
Why constrain to a weird length of 75-80 years? Despots can and do learn from history which can easily span a few hundred years, if not more. Heck, you have videos of 1930s fascists' speeches on Youtube.
Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by pyrale on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:04PM (#35429554)
> Why constrain to a weird length of 75-80 years?

Because I'm talking of a recent trend, and this timeframe offers a relevant context.

Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by RestlessMind on Monday April 03, 2023 @06:58PM (#35432526)
But your original assertion is that American far-right movement is being exported to Europe. Now if you are going to stop precisely at the moment when European fascism (which has a big influence on American far right) died down, then obviously that's going to be tautological. So not sure that qualifies as American export to Europe.
Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by pyrale on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @04:44AM (#35436832)
You're making big semantic leaps here.You seem to be wanting to deny the claim that "the US are the origin of far-right ideology and pushing it to Europe", but that's not the point I'm making. My point is that, in recent times, the cultural flow goes this way. It's also one item in a list of other domains where the flow also goes this way.
Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by drstewart on Sunday April 02, 2023 @08:06PM (#35416817)
>Your far-right political movements, especially religious movements, are actively trying to export themselves to Europe, with varying success depending on the specific trend.

Please explain, in detail, what part of Golden Dawn was actively exported from the US.

Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by sobkas on Sunday April 02, 2023 @04:09PM (#35414617)
> > rather the way of thinking about the world.

> As an American who has lived in the US my whole life, it can be tough to see outside the box, so to speak. What parts of the US worldview are being exported? How does it differ with traditional attitudes?

Your evangelicals export homophobia and prosperity gospel to Africa. And other not so nice things that were kept in check by church-state separation on your soil, but developing nations don't have mechanism to defend themselves against. Tobacco industry floods poor nations with cigarettes using marketing and legal threats. Your puritanism shoved into everyones throat, can watch violence all day, but saw a nipple? End of the world. YouTube no swear rule was/is ridiculous. The land of the free, my ass. And the idea that culture can be owned by corporations. Disney much?

Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by hnfong on Sunday April 02, 2023 @11:23PM (#35418181)
> but saw a nipple? End of the world.

Sounds funny on the surface, but it's more consequential than that.

A legit/legal Asian paid porn site that I used to visit was shut down because American credit card companies decided they didn't want to get involved in that business. It's the kind of things that drives people to crypto (disclaimer: I never owned any crypto), and it's not just because of ideological or scammy reasons, sometimes it's just to get away from American hegemony in the finance sector.

There are other similar but more sinister things like these: https://www.vice.com/en/article/pa8xy9/is-the-doj-forcing-ba...

It's fine by me if America is just enforcing their morals within their own borders, but given that the USD is the de-facto world currency, these policies get exported everywhere.

Re:Italian government seeks to penalize the use of English w... by revelio on Monday April 03, 2023 @05:17AM (#35420621)
For some reason you've got two replies talking about the "far right", missionaries in Africa and other weirdness that doesn't apply to Europe and never comes up anywhere.

The way most people experience this is partisan ideological fighting that spills out into the rest of the world, especially left wing social movements. This is how you get people yelling "hands up don't shoot" at unarmed British police, and BLM marches in central European cities where there's no history of slavery and famously civilized police. It makes no sense in the local cultural context but people are bored and copy what they see on TV and social media.