Anonymous Twitter sources may have _low_ credibility, but Elon musk has _exactly zero_ credibility at this point. He has a significant and proven track record of making false and misleading statements, even ignoring the many many more difficult to prove allegations.

In my personal experience, software engineers, when you ask them about technical matters like "does the code do X" or "is there a condition for Y" are generally pretty honest. Programming is a task that requires being able to have structured and literal reasoning, and asking engineers about purely technical details usually triggers that response, even if you can imagine a social motive for lying.

> Elon musk has _exactly zero_ credibility at this point

> In my personal experience, software engineers, are generally pretty honest..

Thanks Mr TheDong, well argued, I am convinced.

Will hard code my Elon credibility score to zero based on this insightful contribution!

BTW - If Elon himself was a software engineer, I detect a logical contradiction. How would we resolve it?

Edit: I just want to know who has credibility and how much, help me understand TheDong.

Note that some of the "false" statements later turn out to be true. E.g. holding child a last heartbeat happens (ex-wife held him for death rattle, elon for last heartbeat)

Disagree, Elon has high credibility IMO, certainly higher than an anonymous source with incentives to slander. Not saying he is perfect but given the scrutiny he is under and how much he is “in the arena” pushing the envelope.

Elon is furthermore a software engineer (he wrote ALOT of code at zip2 & paypal) so your argument falls flat in that regard.

Credibility from what exactly? Having last year's most expensive mid-life crisis? He once had some credibility, no one will deny that. Respect is earned and lost.

I think him buying twitter was great. He is lightyears better than previous owners & management. He is also running two other companies doing extraordinary things in the world.

Of all the people you can hate on in the world, hating on Elon is to me very odd. Tall poppy syndrome I guess...

He tried to fire a disabled employee via a public tweet without speaking to them privately first, and then had to retract it. This is McDonalds McManager behavior, not CEO behavior.

You're making it sound like this commenter has some nasty personal vendetta on Elon, when it's just that he's a goofy dude who keeps embarrassing himself in a very public way.

This isn't Tall Poppy syndrome. This is Sideshow Bob repeatedly walking into rakes and getting smacked in the face.

He makes way more mistakes than I would like as well. But he also has made a lot of fantastic decisions that IMO outweigh by magnitudes the annoying irreverence he displays.

By the way, I’m not excusing his behavior by saying this, but I’m pretty sure the irreverence is a complete response to the struggles and pain from non-stop attacks from fighting giants in the arena for years. Putting yourself out there, living in the arena, especially to the extent he has, is super hard. Most of us don’t have the courage. If you do, you’re welcome to enter it and try to be a better role model. The world needs it.

Musk did not write a lot of code at PayPal, that's factually incorrect. And he was ousted and replaced at PayPal because he was trying to make technical decisions that would've killed the company.

Why are you so determined to carry water for someone who doesn't know you exist and wouldn't care if they did?

I didn't use to like the guy and I'm neutral now, but I could return the same question to you that you asked the guy you're responding to.

Why are you so determined to carry water for people that dislike Elon who don't know you exist and wouldn't care if you did?

But all jokes aside, he quotes a real person, responding to an anonymous source. Why does that warrant a personal attack?