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Re:Twitter open sourced the recommendation engine by runako on Friday March 31, 2023 @05:05PM (#35393641)
For the NYT to verify their official accounts plus those of their reporters (using the Twitter Blue Affiliations feature) would be $1m annually. This, for a budget line item that has heretofore been $0. In this economy, that's a reach.

I don't think the NYT is worried about "reach."

Re:Twitter open sourced the recommendation engine by tick_tock_tick on Friday March 31, 2023 @05:16PM (#35393783)
> I don't think the NYT is worried about "reach."

LOL they are desperate for reach. Incredibly so; have you not listen to any podcast by them? They are begging people to go to their site. They get a fraction of the organic traffic they used to and nearly everything is driven from other site like Twitter, Google News, Facebook, etc. The internet age has not been kind to classic news orgs.

Re:Twitter open sourced the recommendation engine by astrange on Friday March 31, 2023 @05:27PM (#35393904)
The NYT has been doing great recently. They're probably the legacy news company that's doing the best online of anyone.

That's on the strength of having a lot of verticals like games, recipes and Wirecutter though.

Re:Twitter open sourced the recommendation engine by adamrezich on Friday March 31, 2023 @05:36PM (#35393990)
have you seen @nyttypos and (to a lesser extent) @nyt_diff? NYT online editorial standards are hilariously abysmal.

https://twitter.com/nyttypos

https://twitter.com/nyt_diff

Re:Twitter open sourced the recommendation engine by astrange on Friday March 31, 2023 @06:18PM (#35394472)
Yeah and it doesn't matter.
Re:Twitter open sourced the recommendation engine by adamrezich on Friday March 31, 2023 @07:06PM (#35394985)
correctly writing words and punctuation on the page digitally printed by "the legacy news company that's doing the best online of anyone" doesn't matter at all? isn't that like the bare minimum of what their job consists of?
Re:Twitter open sourced the recommendation engine by astrange on Friday March 31, 2023 @07:44PM (#35395303)
I was responding to a post saying they weren't getting online traffic by saying they are getting online traffic. Nothing about the quality of their content.
Re:Twitter open sourced the recommendation engine by mgiannopoulos on Friday March 31, 2023 @06:38PM (#35394715)
How do you get the 1 million figure?
Re:Twitter open sourced the recommendation engine by brandonagr2 on Friday March 31, 2023 @07:07PM (#35394994)
An affiliated account to a verified org is $50 per month per seat, so NYT would have to authenticate 1,647 affiliated accounts to reach 1 million dollars per year
Re:Twitter open sourced the recommendation engine by runako on Friday March 31, 2023 @07:13PM (#35395040)
Exactly this. Use the published number of reporters at the NYT and multiply.
Re:Twitter open sourced the recommendation engine by mgiannopoulos on Friday March 31, 2023 @11:41PM (#35396879)
Are all of these 1647 reporters (they have that many??) and posting on Twitter? That’s a lot of traffic generators or not. Surely they could just do the bulk with 100 or so.
Re:Twitter open sourced the recommendation engine by runako on Saturday April 01, 2023 @12:59AM (#35397285)
You're suggesting the NYT further tier its reporting ranks, along with all the internal difficulty that would entail. For ex: obviously the 100 have to include the most senior reporters, who are also older and therefore the least likely to create the viral content NYT wants affiliated with their account, so immediately they probably need to look at a much larger number. For another example: social media is different for each reader, or from the other side, each reporter has a constituency. In one season, the fashion reporters are driving views, while the following season it's the European war correspondents or the economics reporters (and all of these desks have subdivisions that wax and wane in popularity).

And all that discussion so that they can spend $72k annually with Twitter, a y/o/y increase of $72k from last year. With no guarantees of reach, because the whole paid-only verification thing is an experiment that began an hour ago. Let me just say that this whole pitch is going to be...difficult... at the point in the economic cycle where we find ourselves.

Re:Twitter open sourced the recommendation engine by mgiannopoulos on Saturday April 01, 2023 @05:27AM (#35398713)
The NYT has revenues of 2.1 billion. I’m sure they have a marketing budget and probably already spending money on Twitter to get traffic. This isn’t something strange.

Facebook did they same thing btw, just more gradual. For years they changed the algorithm slowly to take away reach from Pages only to offer it back as long as you paid.

Re:Twitter open sourced the recommendation engine by nonethewiser on Friday March 31, 2023 @08:49PM (#35395816)
Seems like a fair cost to pump spam
Re:Twitter open sourced the recommendation engine by nonethewiser on Friday March 31, 2023 @08:48PM (#35395806)
> I don't think the NYT is worried about "reach."

Then why are they on Twitter?

Re:Twitter open sourced the recommendation engine by throwmeaway1212 on Sunday April 02, 2023 @01:06AM (#35407370)
Having a presence doesn't mean you can infer they are worried about not having a presence.