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Re:75% of the Most Played Games on Steam Are Playable on the... by chaorace on Friday March 31, 2023 @10:52AM (#35388011)
> An insanely helpful community. Tons of knowledge out there for getting it to do anything you can dream of.

This may actually be one of the biggest lasting impacts of the Steam Deck. It puts a lot of enthusiasts with a common interest on a highly reproducible and officially supported configuration. If a game doesn't work, you can file a bug with Valve on Github about it and most of the time it'll be fixed within a week. If the system itself is misbehaving, you can feel safe knowing that there are thousands of others on the exact same configuration.

Just two weeks ago, I had an issue with the system resuming into a blacked-out screen, so I vaguely Googled the symptoms and "Steam Deck", which led me to a Reddit thread with oodles of people experiencing the same issue[1]. Someone said it was a bug related to the new customizable boot animation feature -- I turned the feature off and I could go on with my day without even opening a single log file!

[1]: https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/11ubgfl/latest_u...

Re:75% of the Most Played Games on Steam Are Playable on the... by jupblb on Friday March 31, 2023 @11:13AM (#35388319)
I have the same issue with my Steam Deck but didn't have the time to Google it. Thank you for saving me these few minutes!
Re:75% of the Most Played Games on Steam Are Playable on the... by philistine on Friday March 31, 2023 @11:46AM (#35388873)
Welcome to the greatest benefit of the Mac community since 1984!
Re:75% of the Most Played Games on Steam Are Playable on the... by BiteCode_dev on Friday March 31, 2023 @11:50AM (#35388935)
Don't see why you are being downvoted, missing one common supported hardware has always been a big problem in the linux community, always chasing crazy combinations of drivers.

Of course if you control the hardware and software stacks, it's leads to a better experience and community can build on it.

Re:75% of the Most Played Games on Steam Are Playable on the... by jchw on Friday March 31, 2023 @01:25PM (#35390197)
Microsoft Surface and Google Pixel are both similar examples, but they don't really feel substantially better than alternatives where the hardware and software stacks are less unified. The primary difference between Steam Deck and other Linux experiences isn't really that the hardware and software are unified, it's that you're actually running a supported configuration in the first place. Almost all Linux setups are ultimately ran on hardware that was built to run Windows in the first place. Even System76 laptops ultimately (today) come from hardware designed for Windows laptops. Steam Deck is flat out, start to finish, all the way down to the APU, designed to boot into Linux, and it shows. On the contrary, booting Windows on it gives you some of the hallmarks of a typical Linux experience on less supported hardware.

But I don't think that's really what the comment was about. I think what is really interesting here is the community.

I think the close collaboration between Valve and the Linux community is pretty unique. Mac has always had a very vocal fanbase, but Apple is a notoriously secretive and stubborn company. Valve is doing all of this work in the open including customer support, which is fostering quite a community. I think to compare it to Mac computers misses the point; Mac has an unusually large base of enthusiasts, much larger than the Steam Deck userbase, but it's not strength in numbers that is intriguing here.

Re:75% of the Most Played Games on Steam Are Playable on the... by philistine on Friday March 31, 2023 @05:23PM (#35393866)
That's not what OP was mentioning as the benefit. They were specifically mentioning the simplicity of a single common hardware base, not the openness of Valve. That this simplicity was making it super easy to pool resources with other users. The Mac always had that common pooling of resources amongst users, and it has been useful despite Apple's stringent secrecy.
Re:75% of the Most Played Games on Steam Are Playable on the... by jchw on Friday March 31, 2023 @05:30PM (#35393936)
This is the important bit.

> > An insanely helpful community. Tons of knowledge out there for getting it to do anything you can dream of.

> This may actually be one of the biggest lasting impacts of the Steam Deck. It puts a lot of enthusiasts with a common interest on a highly reproducible and officially supported configuration. If a game doesn't work, you can file a bug with Valve on Github about it and most of the time it'll be fixed within a week. If the system itself is misbehaving, you can feel safe knowing that there are thousands of others on the exact same configuration.

The community building that Valve does is important for this in my opinion.

Re:75% of the Most Played Games on Steam Are Playable on the... by xattt on Friday March 31, 2023 @01:35PM (#35390350)
The ease-of-use of software or hardware can unintentionally filter for a certain profile of user base.

If it’s hard-to-use, Kafkaesque, or unforgiving, users who are able to integrate the hardware/software into their daily lives are likely to see it as a trial-by-fire and be gatekeepers to others.

Re:75% of the Most Played Games on Steam Are Playable on the... by _wolfie_ on Friday March 31, 2023 @01:10PM (#35390025)
> If the system itself is misbehaving, you can feel safe knowing that there are thousands of others on the exact same configuration.

I feel happy that there are thousands of other people who need to use a retarded workaround to get their xbox x series controller working over the wire with the official USB dock.

If you connect xbox controller over a cable to the official dock, and it is not recognized, the workaround is:

1. Put batteries into the controller

2. Turn it on (make sure this does not turn on your xbox, I had to unplug mine from the power)

3. Attach the controller via cable to the steam dock deck

4. Wait for the steam dock to recognize the controller and the controls to start working

5. Now you can fucking take out the batteries and it will keep working

I found post describing this workaround from like January, I would never figure this out on my own. How do people even come up with this?

Re:75% of the Most Played Games on Steam Are Playable on the... by tyfon on Friday March 31, 2023 @01:21PM (#35390136)
> How do people even come up with this?

Frustration and hours of "fiddling" is my guess, suddenly you did something that worked. The worst is when you can't remember the exact steps!

Not that I have this issue myself, I have the dual sense which seems to work fine.

Re:75% of the Most Played Games on Steam Are Playable on the... by hoorible on Friday March 31, 2023 @02:11PM (#35390944)
It’s 2023 and this is supposed to be a place for grownups. Don’t fucking use the r word. Here or anywhere.
Re:75% of the Most Played Games on Steam Are Playable on the... by codersfocus on Friday March 31, 2023 @02:44PM (#35391462)
Please don’t use the f word, this is a mature discussion forum. You’re an adult, you can express your feelings without such vulgarities.
Re:75% of the Most Played Games on Steam Are Playable on the... by dougmwne on Friday March 31, 2023 @02:50PM (#35391567)
Who comes up with this stuff anyway? There are a half dozen old terms for people with an intellectual disability. Most of them are still common and accepted in speech, (dumb, idiot, fool, stupid, imbecile). How did this one word get elevated to such triggering heights? It means the same thing and has the same connotation as those other words! I swear we are entering a neovictorian age.
Re:75% of the Most Played Games on Steam Are Playable on the... by hoorible on Friday March 31, 2023 @03:23PM (#35392104)
> Who comes up with this stuff anyway?

> How did this one word get elevated to such triggering heights?

Those are actually great questions! Have you considered, instead of shouting rhetorically into the ether, actually looking for the answers? Maybe reading editorials from people in the autism community about why there's a renewed focus on eliminating use of some especially harmful words but not others?

This kind of behaviour is what I think of when I see all these comments about the recent enshittification of discourse on HN. For a community that's supposed to be for the intelligent and innately curious, there seems to be a growing deficit of people actually looking to seek out, learn from and appreciate other perspectives.

> It [...] has the same connotation as those other words!

No, it doesn't. Maybe it does to some of the people who choose to use it, but certainly not to the people it describes or are affected by the use of it. Again, maybe you could look into it, but that would depend you actually being willing to learn from the answers you'd find.

> I swear we are entering a neovictorian age.

I also worry that we're regressing socially and intellectually, but I suspect you and I have very different concerns in this regard.

Re:75% of the Most Played Games on Steam Are Playable on the... by TMWNN on Friday March 31, 2023 @02:57PM (#35391668)
Linguistic locusts. In ten years, when the newly adopted euphemism for a word today deemed a slur has itself been deemed a slur, the locusts will be onto the next term to denounce.