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Re:1k researchers and executives call for ‘pause’ on advance... by yreg on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @04:08PM (#35362710)
Doesn't Elon continue to hold a stake in OpenAI? Do you think Tesla wants to compete with OAI in building an LLM? Make use of Dojo?
Re:1k researchers and executives call for ‘pause’ on advance... by ksherlock on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @04:13PM (#35362771)
Elon musk was a founding member, a board member (resigned in 2018), and a donor, but not an owner (it's a non-profit so there aren't owners exactly).
Re:1k researchers and executives call for ‘pause’ on advance... by yreg on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @04:25PM (#35362961)
I admit I don't really understand how nonprofits (especially in US) work ownership-wise, but I do know that OpenAI has a for-profit subsidiary.

Microsoft invested ~10B into OpenAI, so apparently there is a way to own something. Also Raison claims they have purchased some pre-IPO shares: https://raison.ai/assets/openai (They even claim - perhaps wrongly - that Elon is one of the lead investors.)

Re:1k researchers and executives call for ‘pause’ on advance... by frabcus on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @05:46PM (#35364211)
It’s a bit more like a capitalist shoggoth mask on a non profit.

Microsoft’s investment return is capped at 100x then they have no more claim. (Curious if they even have search engine exclusivity then!)

So for now OpenAI acts capitalist, the for profit controls a lot. But we see the influence of the owning non profit, eg in the red teaming which presumably wouldn’t be as good otherwise

Whether this wild new structure works when it comes to it is but one of the huge gambles this organisation is making!

Re:1k researchers and executives call for ‘pause’ on advance... by biscottigelato on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @05:11PM (#35363734)
It WAS a non-profit. I am not sure if it still is one today.
Re:1k researchers and executives call for ‘pause’ on advance... by sebzim4500 on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @04:57PM (#35363499)
Elon donated money back when they were pretending to be a charity. He has no stake in them.
Re:1k researchers and executives call for ‘pause’ on advance... by Simon321 on Thursday March 30, 2023 @03:57AM (#35369477)
He was furious because they didn't make CEO and withdrew his funding/left: https://www.semafor.com/article/03/24/2023/the-secret-histor...