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Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by shams93 on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @01:03PM (#35344292)
Being laid off at 50 is fairly brutal but hoping to find something using my django experience and get back to work. Fortunately my mom is still alive I had to move in with her, I had already been laid off once, when you are laid off 2 times in one year they force you to go 6 months with no income whatsoever as a form of punishment.
Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by techperson20007 on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @01:35PM (#35344828)
Sorry to hear this and good luck in the search.

Out of curiosity, at age 50, wondering why you wouldn't have a substantial savings by this age, enough to avoid losing housing? Or are you simply living with your mom to reduce the impact on that savings? Sorry if i'm making it sound like everyone at 50 should have a ton of money, I know thats not the case. Just curious.

Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by notac on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @01:42PM (#35344933)
Honestly I'm sick of seeing people post this kind of thing. There's _all kinds_ of reasons people can not have the "expected" amount of savings at _any_ age. Medical. Divorce. Other life disasters. Failed investments. Business failure.

These kinds of questions frankly just lead to victim blaming and expose the asker as either (a) having grown up wealthy and staying that way their entire life, or (b) completely callous.

Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by karmakurtisaani on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @02:06PM (#35345299)
Well, I for one would be interested in hearing those reasons. If for nothing else, to learn from their story.
Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by mquirion on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @02:20PM (#35345537)
Not OP, but reasons that are pretty easy to imagine: - Living in America and suffering from either cancer, heart disease, or any chronic illness. - Have any number of children and not having a family member available to care for them before they are of school age and after school from Kindergarten until whatever local laws permit for the child to be home alone for a few hours a day. - Buying a home at the wrong time and taking an absolute bath on the "investment" once some unforseen circumstance forces you to sell the home while upside down on the mortgage. - Experiencing various forms of fraud. - Experiencing a lawsuit in America, whether you came out as the winner of said dispute or not. - Being 50 and having had the poor but not unreasonable "luck" of having worked for the wrong start-ups in 1999, 2007, and 2022.

Those are just top of mind.

Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by karmakurtisaani on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @03:35PM (#35346611)
Certainly we can imagine all those different scenarios, but I don't find them as insightful as a personal anecdote.
Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by notac on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @02:25PM (#35345613)
The point is, it's nobody's business why. The reasons are probably personal. Even asking opens a form of blame-game dialogue instead of beneficial and productive conversation.
Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by karmakurtisaani on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @03:39PM (#35346670)
Definitely true. But I've read a lot of personal stories on the Internet, and maybe OP is willing to share. As for the blame-game, yes, it could happen. But it's a bit shame if we shut down potentially interesting discussion by preemptively deciding the outcome.
Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by GingerBoats on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @03:14PM (#35346332)
I'm 40. I'm a single parent and divorced. I'm a Veteran.

I spent my 20s going to college, working for a porn company (not as a performer), and then joining the Navy. I paid off student debts, alimony, and child support. I have one successful and one failed startup under my belt. I've always, always, always, lived paycheck to paycheck until recently.

At 40. I was finally able to save up enough for a house in a HCOL city. I have roughly 6 months of savings and not a whole lot for retirement.

At 50 - I'd love to still be in tech, but I don't see it happening. I already see the writing on the wall that I need to start going the management route or I really need to find my niche as an individual contributor to be retained. I'm the old dude on my team.

In retrospect, I had a blast in my 20s and would not change it for the corporate grind that I'm currently in.

All of us have different stories and paths. There is no "right" or "wrong" path, it's all a journey.

Sure, if I had done things a more responsible way I may be in a completely different situation in life. Who knows? I don't.

Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by karmakurtisaani on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @03:41PM (#35346713)
Thanks for sharing your story.
Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by throw0101b on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @04:54PM (#35347671)
> I have roughly 6 months of savings and not a whole lot for retirement.

Note that one can save a 'decent' amount even if you have 'only' ten years before your planned/desired day. This book has a Canadian focus, but the principles are probably pretty general:

* https://www.cpacanada.ca/en/public-interest/financial-litera...

Interview with author:

* https://www.moneysense.ca/save/retirement/procrastinating-on...

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_MIMfd5emg

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh74xUdBITU

You may not need as much of a nest egg as you think:

* https://www.moneysense.ca/save/calculating-how-much-money-yo...

* https://www.macleans.ca/economy/money-economy/heres-the-real...

* https://findependencehub.com/qa-with-author-david-aston-abou...

Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by nebulousthree on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @03:07PM (#35346225)
Dont forget: all your successes, and all your failures are the result of your actions and your actions only. You exist in a vacuum.
Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by ryandrake on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @01:46PM (#35345007)
Not OP, but also almost 50. The ability to save doesn't tend to scale with income or age. Major costs like taxes, housing, healthcare and so on very efficiently and elastically scale up to soak your income, even as that income is rising. If you're living in the Bay Area and making a "typical" Bay Area comp, your rent cost is likely set by knowledgable local landlords to maximize the amount of that income they can sponge up. Health insurance works similarly.

Of course there are other good reasons for not being able to save. Medical debt, education debt, child support, parental support and so on.

Without guaranteed pensions, saving takes deliberate effort, deliberate avoidance of lifestyle creep, a lot of health luck, and a lot of luck in the market. Those savings vehicles you do manage to take advantage of, like 401(k)s and so on, are mostly inaccessible outside of the context of retiring. So anything you put into them is gone until you're elderly.

Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by rhelz on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @02:25PM (#35345611)
No matter how wealthy you are on paper, your spend should be less than your income. That means swallowing your pride and moving back home sometimes.
Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by pcthrowaway on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @03:30PM (#35346541)
Not OP, but I'm almost 40, and also have very little savings. Not everyone has the super high TCs that you often see here or on Blind

I've only been working in tech for 9 years, much of that was paid pretty low. And I live in a very HCOL city. Unfortunately living with parents is not an option, but I live in a house with 9 other people and have been cooking rice and beans and saving as much as possible, so if I get laid off, between low rent (for my city) and my savings and RRSP I can get by for a little over a year if I absolutely have to. I'd have to start withdrawing from my RRSP (Canadian version of 401K) at around the 10 month mark.

I actually really want to quit my job and try starting my own business, but I feel like it's a terrible time for it. If I get laid off I at least get some benefits from the govt, which I think will extend my cushion by a month or 2.

Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by throw0101b on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @04:56PM (#35347715)
Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by indigodaddy on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @01:07PM (#35344343)
Sending you good vibes in your search! Good luck to you.
Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by atlgator on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @01:17PM (#35344501)
Who is “they?” Who is forcing you to go without income?
Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by solarmist on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @01:18PM (#35344530)
I would assume OP is referring to unemployment benefits.
Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by labcomputer on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @01:43PM (#35344953)
Do you know where I can learn more about this? I’ve never heard of a rule like that before
Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by solarmist on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @03:19PM (#35346389)
I'm guessing that being laid off twice in a year means they didn't have enough time/wages at the second job to re-qualify for unemployment.
Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by jjtheblunt on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @01:18PM (#35344538)
seeing we asked the same, simultaneously, i'm deleting my question.
Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by whitemary on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @01:20PM (#35344568)
The ruling class. In the contemporary US, this constitutes the owners of capital; not as a whole but as an aggregate of their competitive behavior.
Re:Where have all the sacked tech workers gone? by jonathankoren on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @01:44PM (#35344973)
Every policy is a choice. The questions always are who benefits, and who are harmed?