> How's that win-win relationship working out for Ukraine right now?
Without Western support, there would be no Ukraine right now.
Re:The Undeniable Street View
by dzikimarian on Sunday March 26, 2023 @01:23PM
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If not for this relationship, Ukraine would not exist now and war would be happening in Poland.
Moldova for sure. Baltics or Poland highly likely, and that would mean a direct confrontation with NATO. The nuclear threats now are peanuts compared to what would happen then.
Re:The Undeniable Street View
by dzikimarian on Sunday March 26, 2023 @03:03PM
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I've assumed reality where there's no "NATO expansionism" (as GP was complaining about US forging alliances), so Poland and entire post-Soviet block wouldn't be in the NATO at all and would be full-time enjoying "Ruski Mir".
Hard to find words to express how shitty that would be.
"The Ukrainian military already is bleeding Russia in the Donbass region (and vice versa). Providing more U.S. military equipment and advice could lead Russia to increase its direct involvement in the conflict and the price it pays for it ... Increasing military advice and arms supplies to Ukraine is the most feasible of these options with the largest impact, but any such initiative would have to be calibrated very carefully to avoid a widely expanded conflict."
- 2019 paper from the RAND Corporation titled Extending Russia: Competing from Advantageous Ground
https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/...