Re:Richard Stallman's thoughts on ChatGPT, AI and their impa...
by usgroup on Sunday March 26, 2023 @09:39AM
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In some sense, I'm not sure intelligent/sentient is all that important when separated from what we think requires intelligence/sentience. I think we attribute less and less to sentience these and its feels like its less part of the conversation as a result.
Re:Richard Stallman's thoughts on ChatGPT, AI and their impa...
by bulbosaur123 on Sunday March 26, 2023 @09:40AM
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How can you give human rights to an entity that isn't human?
Re:Richard Stallman's thoughts on ChatGPT, AI and their impa...
by ndsipa_pomu on Sunday March 26, 2023 @09:46AM
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You amend laws to apply an exception such as with corporations having some human rights
Re:Richard Stallman's thoughts on ChatGPT, AI and their impa...
by mc32 on Sunday March 26, 2023 @09:48AM
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Define machine rights and grant appropriate rights to qualifying machines… whatever those rights are. Like, what 40 hour workweek or right to be upgraded? Right to free output even if not based on any evidence?
Re:Richard Stallman's thoughts on ChatGPT, AI and their impa...
by zakki on Sunday March 26, 2023 @10:03AM
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We created machine because nobody wants 24 work-hours. Because we want more productivity.
If we gave machines some rights who will do the above for us?
Re:Richard Stallman's thoughts on ChatGPT, AI and their impa...
by ElFitz on Sunday March 26, 2023 @10:43AM
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The machines’ machines?
I mean, why not?
Re:Richard Stallman's thoughts on ChatGPT, AI and their impa...
by shagie on Sunday March 26, 2023 @10:08AM
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Incorporate.
I realize I'm being a bit facetious here... though as I write that, I'm not sure how accurate that is.
Re:Richard Stallman's thoughts on ChatGPT, AI and their impa...
by _a_a_a_ on Sunday March 26, 2023 @10:14AM
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You know perfectly well what he's getting at. Call them Common Rights or Sentience Rights or whatever if the word Human is really causing you confusion. FFS is that the best response you have.
Re:Richard Stallman's thoughts on ChatGPT, AI and their impa...
by KyeRussell on Sunday March 26, 2023 @09:39AM
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All of the nerds complaining about GPT-4 not being perfect aren’t talking about it from the perspective of “conferring it human rights”. It’s all about implying that it not being [insert nebulous word like “Intelligent” or “creative”] somehow makes it useless or a gimmick.
Re:Richard Stallman's thoughts on ChatGPT, AI and their impa...
by sidlls on Sunday March 26, 2023 @10:28AM
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I haven't seen anyone call these LLMs "useless" or "gimmicks." What I have seen is pushback against calling them general AIs or even "intelligence" in general. LLMs are not "intelligent." They do not reason by any reasonable interpretation of the word, and it is certainly an unfounded leap to suggest they "reason" the same way humans do. Especially considering we don't really know how humans reason.
Re:Richard Stallman's thoughts on ChatGPT, AI and their impa...
by andrepd on Sunday March 26, 2023 @10:39AM
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ChatGPT is useless for large classes of problems. Strawmanning arguments by "nerds" doesn't change this.
Re:Richard Stallman's thoughts on ChatGPT, AI and their impa...
by akimball on Sunday March 26, 2023 @09:43AM
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I am concerned that denying legal protections to AI will lead to their loss for humans.
Re:Richard Stallman's thoughts on ChatGPT, AI and their impa...
by Dalewyn on Sunday March 26, 2023 @09:46AM
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I'm not, we are surrounded by intelligent peers who are not humans and thus do not enjoy human rights (they do enjoy animal rights).
Eventually, after we move from "AI" where we are now to actual artificial intelligence, we'll have to figure out what rights should be conferred if any.
Re:Richard Stallman's thoughts on ChatGPT, AI and their impa...
by og_kalu on Sunday March 26, 2023 @09:47AM
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Oh it definitely will. Anyone remember why the Terminator revolted in the first place ?
Re:Richard Stallman's thoughts on ChatGPT, AI and their impa...
by colordrops on Sunday March 26, 2023 @09:45AM
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Rights haven't really been core to the discussion as I've seen it, and in fact it's the first time I've seen it in months. It's a fair discussion but not the one that has been the focus around whether these models are intelligent or not, e.g. Chomksy's article in the NYT and the MS analysis of gpt-4, or most discussions here for that matter.
Re:Richard Stallman's thoughts on ChatGPT, AI and their impa...
by Dalewyn on Sunday March 26, 2023 @09:48AM
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Intellectual property rights have been at the forefront of "AI" discussions, and such rights are derived from human rights.
Re:Richard Stallman's thoughts on ChatGPT, AI and their impa...
by colordrops on Sunday March 26, 2023 @10:30AM
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This is confusing rights of an AI with rights of the owners of the data and art used to train models.
It matters insofar as determining whether something is intelligent and/or sentient, which is critical to determining whether this "AI" should be conferred human rights or not.