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Re:What if Meta launches a mobile app store? by CharlesW on Friday March 24, 2023 @01:05PM (#35292109)
I'm dreading the day Apple is bullied into supporting 3rd-party app stores and I'm forced to download the Meta store to get Meta apps, the Netflix app store to get the Netflix app, etc.
Re:What if Meta launches a mobile app store? by 29083011397778 on Friday March 24, 2023 @01:21PM (#35292396)
I'm quite happy with taking the good with the bad. Apple may be forced to open up and allow other app storefronts, and the downside is a reasonable concern. The upside though, is considerable: A proper open-source and entirely free app store that is treated like a First-class citizen.

I don't have Google Services installed, and rely entirely on F-Droid, with no extra repositories enabled. I feel my personal information is much less likely to leave my device installing any app through F-Droid compared to any app on Apple's store. Despite how locked down the App store is, I still trust it less than a third-party store.

I believe Apple users end up with all the downside (limits on which apps can be built and easily distributed) and none of the upside (an app store with which I trust every single application on).

Re:What if Meta launches a mobile app store? by klondike_ on Friday March 24, 2023 @01:54PM (#35292998)
Android has third party app stores and this doesn't happen for most apps (Fortnite is the big exception). If anything, app store competition will force Apple to reduce its ridiculous 30% fee on in-app purchases.
Re:What if Meta launches a mobile app store? by comte7092 on Friday March 24, 2023 @02:28PM (#35293484)
The number of companies that actually have the market power to pull that off without risking implosion to their entire business is vanishingly small.

The ecosystem could support couple more app stores at most.

Re:What if Meta launches a mobile app store? by bmarquez on Friday March 24, 2023 @02:32PM (#35293527)
I'm looking forward to it. If my elderly relatives start getting confused about how to download Messenger or Whatsapp from a 3rd party app store, I can tell them about Signal or other alternatives.

Any friction makes it easier for their competitors. I think the only app that succeeded with a 3rd party (Android) store is Fortnite, and their userbase is young and grew up with technology.

Re:What if Meta launches a mobile app store? by quitit on Friday March 24, 2023 @02:41PM (#35293648)
It pretty much ensures a race to the bottom - there will be an app store that approves anything for a fee. Twitter checkmark style, with on-device consequences.

You can bet your ass that some entity you need to work with will be using this app store to push software onto your device that you don't want to be there. It could be your bank suctioning up your data to minimise their exposure to fraud. It could be your health insurer to check that you're not doing dangerous things like speeding, or living a sedentary lifestyle. It could be your own government making sure you don't seek out abortion information. None of this stuff is possible under the current app store paradigm. (We already got a taste of it when Facebook and Google were both exploiting Enterprise Certificates to bypass protections: allowing them to vacuum up personal information, social media/IM conversations and constantly track the user.

I have no idea how the regulation is planning on managing permission bits, the whole point of having the approval system is that a developer had to prove they needed access to your contacts, location, camera, files, etc. Why does a flashlight app need access to your contacts?

Meanwhile you'll constantly hear people reply to these talking points about the seldom app that slipped through the app approval process:

1. This doesn't prove that we don't need an approval process

2. The amount of malware on iOS in comparison to Android, Windows and even macOS is extraordinarily low, not just as a % of users, but in absolute terms. It's very difficult to argue that the app store approach is ineffective and only there to make money when the statistics prove otherwise.

tl,dr: There is an absolute shit show up ahead and people are too busy high-5'ing each other because they think they nailed it to Apple.

Re:What if Meta launches a mobile app store? by whateveracct on Friday March 24, 2023 @03:28PM (#35294246)
I barely use non-stock apps nowadays. I go through the browser for many things. And I self-host stuff on my local network, which exposes web UIs. Keeping it thin is the way to go, imo.

I'll probably end up having a NixOS phone down the line as that develops more.

Re:What if Meta launches a mobile app store? by TheLoafOfBread on Friday March 24, 2023 @05:35PM (#35295913)
I am actually looking forward for it. Because when competition arrives, Apple might stop behaving like a spoiled brat with its AppStore and start being a little bit developer friendly.
Re:What if Meta launches a mobile app store? by nozzlegear on Friday March 24, 2023 @06:52PM (#35296760)
What does that look like for the end user, in practice?
Re:What if Meta launches a mobile app store? by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Friday March 24, 2023 @07:02PM (#35296847)
If Apple didn't play these stupid games apps could be available on multiple app stores, for different prices even.