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Re:ChatGPT Plugins by roca on Thursday March 23, 2023 @05:49PM (#35281767)
What I want to know is, what gives OpenAI and other relatively small technological elites permission to gamble with the future of humanity? Shouldn't we all have a say in this?
Re:ChatGPT Plugins by megablast on Thursday March 23, 2023 @10:00PM (#35284118)
Every time someone drives they gamble with humanity in a much more deadly activity. No one cares.
Re:ChatGPT Plugins by roca on Friday March 24, 2023 @01:43AM (#35285468)
Car crashes don't affect the trajectory of human civilization all that much.
Re:ChatGPT Plugins by majou on Friday March 24, 2023 @04:48PM (#35295238)
Except the one that killed Nujabes.
Re:ChatGPT Plugins by thisoneworks on Thursday March 23, 2023 @10:22PM (#35284278)
There might be government regulation on AI pretty soon.. it's not crazy to think GPUs and GPU tech would be treated as defense equipment some day
Re:ChatGPT Plugins by qball on Thursday March 23, 2023 @10:43PM (#35284416)
>it's not crazy to think GPUs and GPU tech would be treated as defense equipment some day

They already are. Taiwan failing to take its own defense seriously is completely rational.

Re:ChatGPT Plugins by qball on Thursday March 23, 2023 @10:45PM (#35284427)
>What gives a bunch of people way smarter than me permission to gamble with the future of humanity?

To ask the question is to answer it.

Re:ChatGPT Plugins by roca on Friday March 24, 2023 @01:42AM (#35285466)
That's not the question I asked. FWIW I'm actually part of one of these groups!
Re:ChatGPT Plugins by chillfox on Thursday March 23, 2023 @10:54PM (#35284472)
Presumably the same as always. They are rich and we are not.
Re:ChatGPT Plugins by krainboltgreene on Friday March 24, 2023 @03:02AM (#35285917)
> gamble with the future of humanity

what in the world are you people talking about, it's a fucking autocomplete program

Re:ChatGPT Plugins by a6 on Friday March 24, 2023 @12:44PM (#35291786)
>it's a fucking autocomplete program

So like a human? I'd say they were pretty influential on the future of humanity.

Re:ChatGPT Plugins by krainboltgreene on Friday March 24, 2023 @01:12PM (#35292208)
Like clock work, I swear to god you're all reading from the same script.

I beg of you to take some humanities courses.

Re:ChatGPT Plugins by haha69 on Friday March 24, 2023 @03:23AM (#35286063)
I have seen this argument a bunch of times and I am confused by what exactly you mean. Everyone is influencing the future of humanity (and in that sense gambling with it?) What gives company X the right to build feature Y? What gives person A the right to post B (for all you know it can be the starting point of a chain of actions that bring down humanity)

Are you suggesting that beyond a threshold all actions someone/something does should be subject to vote/review by everyone? And how do you define/formalise this threshold?

Re:ChatGPT Plugins by roca on Sunday March 26, 2023 @06:21PM (#35320264)
There's a spectrum here.

At one end of the spectrum is a thought experiment: one person has box with a button. Press the button and with probability 3/4 everyone dies, but with probability 1/4 everyone is granted huge benefits --- immortality etc. I say it's immoral for one person to make that decision on their own, without consulting anyone else. People deserve a say over their future; that's one reason we don't like dictatorships.

At the other end are people's normal actions that could have far-reaching consequences but almost certainly won't. At this end of the spectrum you're not restricting people's agency to a significant degree.

Arguing that because the spectrum exists and it's hard to formalize a cutoff point, we shouldn't try, is a form of the continuum fallacy.

Re:ChatGPT Plugins by haha69 on Monday March 27, 2023 @02:13AM (#35323440)
"Arguing that because the spectrum exists and it's hard to formalize a cutoff point, we shouldn't try, is a form of the continuum fallacy."

Such an argument wasn't made.

It is a legitimate question. Where and when do you draw the line? And who does it? How are we formalising this?

You said

"Shouldn't we all have a say in this?"

I am of the opinion that if this instance of this company doing this is being subjected to this level of scrutiny then there are many more which should be too.

What gave Elon the right to buy twitter? And I would imagine most actions that a relatively big corp takes fall under the same criteria. And most actions other governments takes also fall under this criteria?

These companies have a board and the governments (most?) have some form of voting. And in a free market you can also vote with your actions.

You are suggesting you want to have a direct line of voting for this specific instance of the problem?

Again, my question is. What exactly are you asking for? Do you want to vote on these? Do you want your government to do something about this?