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Re:De-cloud and de-K8s – Bringing our apps back home by dangwhy on Thursday March 23, 2023 @12:31PM (#35277291)
i am sure you will supply proof for your claims.
Re:De-cloud and de-K8s – Bringing our apps back home by jameshart on Thursday March 23, 2023 @12:37PM (#35277380)
Re:De-cloud and de-K8s – Bringing our apps back home by dangwhy on Thursday March 23, 2023 @01:02PM (#35277751)
> at least 20 people — more than one-third of Basecamp’s 57 employees — had announced their intention to accept buyouts from the company.

Thanks for subjecting me to this crap article ( Which i presume you didn't bother to read.).

Re:De-cloud and de-K8s – Bringing our apps back home by jameshart on Thursday March 23, 2023 @01:42PM (#35278467)
The article seems to provide evidence for the claim that a dispute within the company over the messaging from leadership led to 1/3 of the staff leaving. I provided it without comment.

Do you believe that a significant proportion of the staff did not quit? Do you have an alternative source that provides evidence for that version of events?

Re:De-cloud and de-K8s – Bringing our apps back home by dangwhy on Thursday March 23, 2023 @02:41PM (#35279392)
what a nonsensical argument. So you believe half of hollywood relocated to canada after trump got elected?

> Do you believe that a significant proportion of the staff did not quit?

Yeah i'll go around trying to prove the negative when i was not the one that claimed some BS as "fact" ( i know you are different from op).

Re:De-cloud and de-K8s – Bringing our apps back home by jameshart on Thursday March 23, 2023 @04:03PM (#35280520)
announced their intention to leave... to the company... in response to the company making an open offer to people of terms for them to leave.

That seems like a slightly different prior, in terms of our Bayesian assessment of the probability that those people remained employed at the company afterwards, than your hypothetical engagement to Ms Johannsen.

Re:De-cloud and de-K8s – Bringing our apps back home by dangwhy on Thursday March 23, 2023 @04:43PM (#35281000)
> to the company

Where did you get this though?

> had announced their intention to accept buyouts from the company.

Is it just people clicking 'yes' reaction to internal slack message ? This didn't sound like they were making any commitment ' to the company' .

Also do you have any comment about the title of the article that you linked. Does that seem honest to you?

Re:De-cloud and de-K8s – Bringing our apps back home by madeofpalk on Thursday March 23, 2023 @05:23PM (#35281485)
So strange to white-knight a company and attempt to deny something that happened pretty publicly...

> As a result of the recent changes at Basecamp, today is my last day at the company. I joined over 15 years ago as a junior programmer and I’ve been involved with nearly every product launch there since 2006.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210430155528/https://twitter.c...

https://web.archive.org/web/20210430140035/https://twitter.c...

https://twitter.com/zachwaugh/status/1388190748189802501

> I’m leaving my position at Basecamp, where I’ve worked for 4 years, due to the recent changes and new policies.

https://twitter.com/lexicola/status/1388189598367559688

https://twitter.com/dylanginsburg/status/1388199059983413257

https://twitter.com/jonasdowney/status/1388205182916440070

> Given the recent changes at Basecamp, I’ve decided to leave my job as Head of Design.

https://twitter.com/mackesque/status/1388206605506842627

https://twitter.com/kaspth/status/1380616358266871810

https://twitter.com/wcmoline/status/1388208323908968449

> I have left Basecamp due to the recent changes & policies.

https://twitter.com/conormuirhead/status/1388207801646780416

https://twitter.com/Rahsfan/status/1388209146487623681

https://twitter.com/AdamStddrd/status/1388223100823642112

Re:De-cloud and de-K8s – Bringing our apps back home by madeofpalk on Thursday March 23, 2023 @07:54PM (#35283200)
> Last week was terrible. We started with policy changes that felt simple, reasonable, and principled, and it blew things up internally in ways we never anticipated. David and I completely own the consequences, and we're sorry. We have a lot to learn and reflect on, and we will. The new policies stand, but we have some refining and clarifying to do.

https://world.hey.com/jason/an-update-303f2f99

Re:De-cloud and de-K8s – Bringing our apps back home by dangwhy on Friday March 24, 2023 @08:33AM (#35288178)
> So strange to white-knight a company and attempt to deny something that happened pretty publicly...

it was just skepticism from seeing these sorts of claims over the years. Half of hollywood would be in canada if people really followed up on those.

I guess quitting your job in the hottest tech market of all time is a little different than moving to a different country.

Re:De-cloud and de-K8s – Bringing our apps back home by mr_ndrsn on Thursday March 23, 2023 @01:58PM (#35278734)
I was at the company when it happened. I'm currently at the company. I'm in ops and work on all of the mrsk/de-clouding efforts.
Re:De-cloud and de-K8s – Bringing our apps back home by rednerrus on Thursday March 23, 2023 @05:26PM (#35281530)
Has the political change lead to a better or worse work environment?
Re:De-cloud and de-K8s – Bringing our apps back home by dangwhy on Friday March 24, 2023 @08:35AM (#35288192)
ha right on! Must've be real awkward for the people who didn't quit in hottest tech job market of all times :D