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Re:Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under n... by toldyouso2022 on Thursday March 23, 2023 @02:12AM (#35271012)
The whole women perspective is ridicolous. I subscribe to the pov that there is no pay gap between sexes sprouting from hateful discrimination.

But this will be great for Italy because a huge problem of our labor market is that salary is considered something dirty. This law may create a better culture. I hope so.

Re:Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under n... by froh on Thursday March 23, 2023 @02:44AM (#35271206)
> no pay gap between sexes sprouting from hateful discrimination.

possibly the pay gap has other reasons in many companies, yes. and yes it's real.

Re:Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under n... by DagsEoress on Thursday March 23, 2023 @05:35AM (#35272188)
Sorry, no it's not. Wage gap is a political tool, nothing else.
Re:Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under n... by derlvative on Thursday March 23, 2023 @05:50AM (#35272281)
Very convincing argument
Re:Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under n... by class3shock on Thursday March 23, 2023 @06:46AM (#35272680)
Re:Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under n... by namaria on Thursday March 23, 2023 @03:06AM (#35271381)
> But this will be great for Italy because a huge problem of our labor market is that salary is considered something dirty

Truly. Employees being termed "dependents" of the company is a big tell on Italy's work culture. I can also vouch for the toxicity of the Brazilian labor market. Every middling manager carries on like a petty feudal lord...

Re:Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under n... by solarkraft on Thursday March 23, 2023 @05:16AM (#35272085)
> Employees being termed "dependents" of the company is a big tell on Italy's work culture

In german there's a funny situation as well: The employer is called the "work provider", while the employee is the "work receiver". Thank you, company, for providing me with work.

Re:Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under n... by namaria on Thursday March 23, 2023 @06:59AM (#35272798)
>In german there's a funny situation as well: The employer is called the "work provider", while the employee is the "work receiver"

Hm in Dutch I'd translate werknemer as 'work taker'... is it very different from that in German?

Re:Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under n... by rkta on Thursday March 23, 2023 @07:35AM (#35273118)
No, it's actually pretty close. German werknemer is Arbeitnehmer.
Re:Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under n... by solarkraft on Thursday March 23, 2023 @03:38PM (#35280182)
Literally it's actually "work giver" and "work taker", I just found it less idiomatic in english (it doesn't quite transport the connotation of providing the work being something noble).
Re:Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under n... by PartiallyTyped on Thursday March 23, 2023 @03:46AM (#35271595)
> But this will be great for Italy because a huge problem of our labor market is that salary is considered something dirty

Same for Cyprus and Poland.

I am very open about my salary on purpose, and i keep telling my friends to talk about theirs with their co workers at least so that they don’t get the short end of the stick.

Re:Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under n... by orwin on Thursday March 23, 2023 @05:27AM (#35272150)
It's not malice, it's cultural.

The pay gap exists because women tends to negociate less. And in male-dominated fields (fields that on average, pay more), they tend to be less outspoken, thus less visible, and as every dev here know, at least 50% of all promotions are based on visibility/performative work and not real skills.

This law won't change anything for the wage gap (which is smaller and smaller are companies tends to promote less internally and hire external management).

Still a fine idea, I'm waiting fir the execution.

Re:Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under n... by ovi256 on Thursday March 23, 2023 @05:59AM (#35272338)
> because women tends to negociate less And unfortunately, not only that, there are some findings that when they do attempt to negotiate, they are perceived badly quicker than men.
Re:Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under n... by PeterisP on Thursday March 23, 2023 @07:39AM (#35273163)
> This law won't change anything for the wage gap

On the contrary, a law like this is clearly a benefit for all people who tend to negotiate less - that reduces the information asymmetry and the role of "haggling"; so I would definitely expect this to reduce the wage gap between the people who currently get market-rate salary because they do hard negotiation and those who currently do not.