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Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by thinkindie on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:24AM (#35231927)
I live in Berlin, within the Ring (for those familiar with the city). I don't own a car, I have multiple carsharing subscriptions and I have two children, 1 and 4. We have a cargo bike to move them around and do groceries, almost in any weather (as long as it doesn't rain), otherwise we have public transport as a backup.
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Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by nonethewiser on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:26AM (#35231962)
Where do you live for those of us unfamiliar with the city? Paris?

More on topic - Bikes make a lot of sense in the city but if you add kids to the equation the safety risk just becomes too high to stomach IMO.

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Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by alkjsdlkjasd on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:31AM (#35232031)
> the safety risk just becomes too high to stomach

Check out chart 2:

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casua...

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Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by nonethewiser on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:36AM (#35232111)
To share with everyone else, chart 2 shows 12x more fatalities per mile traveled for bikes compared to cars.
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Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by alkjsdlkjasd on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:44AM (#35232244)
On the other hand, is shows that pedestrians and cyclists have the same rate of fatalities per mile traveled.

So better to not walk or cycle and just stick to your car /s

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Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by nonethewiser on Monday March 20, 2023 @07:04PM (#35240103)
It absolutely is more safe to put a child in a car in a car seat than to put them on your bike. I wouldn’t even do that outside a city, on a quiet paved bike path.
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Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by alkjsdlkjasd on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:30AM (#35232000)
Reference is the s-bahn ring:

https://oxyi.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/map-of-berlin-co...

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Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by thinkindie on Monday March 20, 2023 @11:02AM (#35232509)
it says right at the beginning "I live in Berlin".
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Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by joaonmatos on Monday March 20, 2023 @12:22PM (#35233931)
The Berlin S-Bahn Ring is a looping railway around the city center. It excludes some higher density areas in the north of the city and includes some less populated areas in the south of the city, but being inside the ring is the most accepted benchmark of living in the city core.
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