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Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by jraby3 on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:06AM (#35231681)
I’ve had 5 bikes stolen and no cars stolen, so have to disagree about worrying about theft.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by raphaelj on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:07AM (#35231701)
Well, my bike is insured, and I bought a recently released angle grinder-resistant lock [1].

My workspace is also fairly well located so that also helps.

[1] https://eu.litelok.com/products/litelok-x1

Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by atchoo on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:22AM (#35231904)
Are you locking your bike to something angle grinder resistant when out and about?

The last bike I had stolen was from an underground bike store, behind two armoured locked doors and locked to a permanent bike-rack embedded in concrete. Thieves didn't cut a single lock, instead they cut all the bike-racks and emptied the place.

Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by alwaysbeconsing on Monday March 20, 2023 @12:05PM (#35233635)
As with nearly all security, nothing is perfect. You are just raising the bar high enough to lower risk to an acceptable level. Cutting an entire row of racks and hauling off all the bikes is a bigger, noisier, longer job, requiring more coordination, than taking one. It presents more risk to the thieves themselves, which means there are going to be fewer thieves willing or able to take it on.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by afavour on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:10AM (#35231746)
The concern I have (in NYC FWIW) is that someone will see they can’t steal the bike and will instead just trash the thing while it’s still locked. Maybe I’m too pessimistic.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by ClapperHeid on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:23AM (#35231914)
That's pretty much my experience in the city where I used to live. I'd regularly pass bikes securly locked to some post or other but with the front wheel stoved in and bent. I always assumed a would-be thief had done it in a fit of pique, after failing to get the lock open.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by newaccount74 on Monday March 20, 2023 @11:24AM (#35232887)
Drunk assholes smash random stuff all the time without first trying to steal it.

Bicycle wheels are unfortunately easily bent by kicks from the side.

Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by danjoredd on Monday March 20, 2023 @11:56AM (#35233478)
These days it seems worth it to get a folding bike. I am currently trying to get one myself so I don't have to worry about it getting stolen OR trashed. I just fold it up and take it inside where nobody will touch it
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by nonethewiser on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:34AM (#35232077)
Insurance won’t get you to work.

And if you don’t need it to get to work you don’t need a car in the first place, so I wouldnt see a point in comparing.

Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by Wowfunhappy on Monday March 20, 2023 @12:15PM (#35233815)
You can take a cab on the one day you're without a bike.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by avianlyric on Monday March 20, 2023 @12:33PM (#35234168)
Most bike insurance include covering the cost of paying for a taxi or other transport alternative on the day of your bike theft.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by howling on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:25AM (#35231937)
This is the same company that creates the touted highly secure LiteLok Gold that LPL cuts in 16s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-On0DGcDlc

I'm skeptical of any bike lock's security that is not reviewed by LPL.

Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by ClapperHeid on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:19AM (#35231853)

  >I bought a recently released angle grinder-resistant lock [1]....
€169 --Jeebus! My bike didn't even cost that much.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by kuschkufan on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:24AM (#35231926)
Then you don't need this lock for your bike. - Cptn Obvious
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by est31 on Monday March 20, 2023 @11:18AM (#35232793)
Not neccessarily, it depends on the environment. In some places even bikes in the sub 160€ range are at danger of being stolen.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by prmoustache on Monday March 20, 2023 @11:37AM (#35233174)
I think you'd want a tetanus shot just by looking at my girlfriends bike with too much insistence.

We still lock it with a chain but I guess that is a good deterrent as there is always a nicer bike that looks more worth the effort on the same rack.

Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by iso1631 on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:21AM (#35231880)
My car is insured, and I'm not sure how you would steal it given that when I lost my key to a cheap car from the 1990s about 15 years ago it cost a fortune to get a new key made which would actually start the engine thanks to the immobilizer. The majority of car thefts are stealing the keys.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by est31 on Monday March 20, 2023 @10:09AM (#35231722)
Yeah I agree with the general sentiment of the comment but that point I think is wrong.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by ilyt on Monday March 20, 2023 @11:15AM (#35232726)
Yeah mine goes from my apartment to my work's underground parking so little risk here. Would be way more wary if I had to park it on the street