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Re:John Carmack: From a DM, just in case anyone else needs t... by matwood on Sunday March 19, 2023 @04:58AM (#35217228)
SQL was also meant to give a wider range of people access to data. The “business analyst” comes to mind. And, I think SQL was successful.

What it didn’t do was reduce the need for programmers, because the new SQL users always wanted more data to answer more complex questions.

Re:John Carmack: From a DM, just in case anyone else needs t... by raincole on Sunday March 19, 2023 @04:59AM (#35217238)
I didn't mean SQL wan's a success. I meant, as the commenter above me said, a higher-level tool doesn't necessarily replace the lower-level ones, or reduce the need of them.
Re:John Carmack: From a DM, just in case anyone else needs t... by gregjor on Sunday March 19, 2023 @05:05AM (#35217261)
Relational databases replaced a whole raft of vendor-supplied databases and custom-built solutions. It was a new tool for software developers, not a replacement.
Re:John Carmack: From a DM, just in case anyone else needs t... by thrown123098 on Sunday March 19, 2023 @07:50AM (#35218075)
A good chuckle of my career has been breaking outncustom tools out or a database because the database can't scale.

IA is the new Excel.

Re:John Carmack: From a DM, just in case anyone else needs t... by roundandround on Sunday March 19, 2023 @11:19AM (#35219847)
I don't actually agree. SQL did replace the need for programmers, especially for complex questions. We sabotaged its interfaces to existing GUIs for mundane questions and made CRUD a limitless profession.

The funny/sad part about computer science is that people don't want to understand the costs of customization and sales/management/marketing forever want it as a differentiator.

SQL could have eliminated us from the flow of many niches as easily as the spreadsheet did from business operations. I think why it didn't has more to do with market timing.

Re:John Carmack: From a DM, just in case anyone else needs t... by marcosdumay on Sunday March 19, 2023 @01:18PM (#35221249)
SQL was too much ahead of its time, but we are indeed slowly adopting the "avoid operational specifications, use high-level languages, make your language fit the problem instead of the opposite" philosophy of the 4th generation languages.