I asked about a New York slice, which is a style of pizza that people rave on and on about, and has been cargo-culted across the U.S., but one I've never been particularly impressed with. Especially when compared to Chicago tavern style or deep dish.
They’re more New York than Naples.
> asked about a New York slice, which is a style of pizza that people rave on and on about, and has been cargo-culted across the U.S.
You’re being snotty about people trying to answer your questions.
Coal-fired pizza by the slice is a New York City invention. The crust is firmer than what’s served on the Gulf of Napoli, allowing it to be confidently held with one hand (folded).
> when compared to Chicago tavern style or deep dish
Try a New Jersey tomato pie. (They’re good.)
In my experience, a lot of Chicago pizza is more properly pie. Freshness of ingredients plays second fiddle to texture and presentation. That doesn’t mean it’s bad. But I want a crisp crust, not a bready one, and a slice, not a whole pie, and that’s an innovation of New York City.
(As others have mentioned, there is a definite atmosphere element to the experience. You don’t buy a slice to soberly cut up with a knife and fork for solo Wednesday weeknight dinner.)
One of many bad habits I picked up from the locals in NYC. Working on it.
There is a place near Midway called Palermo’s that I like.
Italian Fiesta is probably my favorite but the service is atrocious.
I don’t know even if the spots I picked are standouts. They just are the ones near where I am when it’s appropriate to eat pizza.
Unlike say Chicago bbq a topic on which I have opinions.
The thread I responded on [1] concerned New York pizza. You asked for recommendations [2], ignored and mischaracterised them, and then went on a tirade on a tangential thread. Your throw-out on $1 pizza was shot down by Kenji himself—I’m honestly confused if there is a point underneath this all that I’m missing.
The general reputation of New Yorkers in every corner of this country is highly negative. It's well deserved and you're exemplary.
While there are many international institutions in NYC, the citizens are by and large provincial navel-gazers.
You unironically think that NYC invented slicing pizza, and you referred to it as "innovation". We're having a good belly laugh about this one at the bar.
Scott’s pizza tour [1]! (No affiliation.)
Coal-fired slices are rare, now. I tend to like a charred, crisp crust and simple toppings that can be bitten through easily. This is a city that cares about its pizza. We don’t run impostors out of town. But there is no single ideal. Buy it, fold it, and enjoy.
(Grimaldi’s and Joe’s. Di Fara and Lucali rub me like Pizzeria Bianco in Phoenix, Arizona. Pizza isn’t a food for lines.)
[1] https://www.scottspizzatours.com/