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Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by IAmGraydon on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @09:28AM (#35168016)
Good luck when Congress fails to agree on the debt ceiling issue in June, defaults on treasuries and government bonds become nearly worthless.
Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by ericpauley on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @09:33AM (#35168073)
Most everything is eventually wrapped treasuries. If the US government defaults you have far bigger worries.
Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by grey-area on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @09:50AM (#35168304)
Why go for a hard default when they can soft default (as now), and nobody cares?

Yes republicans in Congress will try to force a crisis, no it won't actually mean government bonds become worthless.

Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by xeromal on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @10:13AM (#35168612)
That scenario is a can of beans and hunting deer with my 30-06 kind of situation if it really gets that bad.
Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by mastax on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @10:55AM (#35169270)
If you're going to hold until maturity, I don't see how the debt ceiling affects you significantly (any more than it would affect the entire asset market). The treasury will pay you eventually, likely within days.

If you are holding 10 year treasuries and were planning on selling them on the secondary market in July, yeah that could be very bad.

Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by icecap12 on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @12:08PM (#35170480)
The situation you've described has never happened. Out of all the options, it is considered the safest. People forget that the dollar is backed by the ultimate currency - military force.
Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by revscat on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @12:41PM (#35170975)
There is a possibility that members of Congress are actively seeking to undermine the financial strength of the United States, and to do so will not vote to raise the debt ceiling. Weakening the federal government is their goal, conservative social issues are merely justifications.

I’m not sure what relevance you think the military has here in this situation.

Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by inglor_cz on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @01:12PM (#35171480)
I have heard similar speculations in the Bush era. At the end of the day, it never happens.
Re:Credit Suisse sheds nearly 25%, key backer says no more m... by rootusrootus on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @04:07PM (#35174026)
There are just a few members of Congress that meet that description, however. They only wield a lot of power when the rest of Congress is divided neatly into two nearly equal parts. The moment actual default becomes a real possibility, the mainstream members of both political parties will briefly form a consensus and kick that can down the road a ways. Just like they always have. Not too far, mind you, because it must remain something they can argue about periodically.

The bad part, of course, is they likely won't do that until we've already done some damage to our credibility.