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Re:Was there a tech-hiring bubble? Indeed.com job postings d... by usrnm on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @08:22AM (#35167154)
> Compared to what?

Nurses? Our job is a lot easier and less important and working conditions are much better. And yet, a fresh grad straight out of school gets a few times more money than an experienced nurse. And, what is worse, a lot of devs honestly believe that they deserve it.

Re:Was there a tech-hiring bubble? Indeed.com job postings d... by epicureanideal on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @09:00AM (#35167653)
> Nurses?

Ah yes, I remember them. The students that were taking the easy chemistry instead of hard chemistry, the easy physics in 2 classes instead of hard physics in 3 classes, and who mostly seemed to be fairly clueless and just doing nursing because someone told them that health care is a growth field. Reminded me a lot of aimless business majors.

Their jobs actually are also on average easier, their education was easier on average, and their ongoing training investment is on average easier, and maybe (although this I don’t know) with more job security.

Edit to reply: No, this is not a joke. I remember this impression I had very clearly. I also still roughly remember the courses each major needed to take.

Re:Was there a tech-hiring bubble? Indeed.com job postings d... by m2fkxy on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @09:27AM (#35168014)
Is this a joke?
Re:Was there a tech-hiring bubble? Indeed.com job postings d... by wing-_-nuts on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @11:38AM (#35169954)
We don't pay people (much more) based on the physical difficulty of their job. If we did, I'm sure the migrant labor that picks our fruit would be first in line for a raise.

My RN friend graduated and got her RN a full 3 years before I graduated with my CS degree. Nursing might be a more demanding job, but it has a much lower barrier to entry than CS, and thus it has a much larger supply (despite nursing orgs complaining about shortages), and a fairly fixed demand that's only increasing as the population ages.

Re:Was there a tech-hiring bubble? Indeed.com job postings d... by usrnm on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @12:59PM (#35171237)
Most programming jobs neither require nor actually need a CS degree. I don't have one and I'm doing pretty ok. Gluing frameworks together is not exactly difficult and has nothing to do with lambda calculus or compiler internals
Re:Was there a tech-hiring bubble? Indeed.com job postings d... by 908B64B197 on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @04:34PM (#35174349)
> My RN friend graduated and got her RN a full 3 years before I graduated with my CS degree.

What took you so long?

Re:Was there a tech-hiring bubble? Indeed.com job postings d... by wing-_-nuts on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @05:45PM (#35175154)
I took 5y because I had a misguided detour into aerospace engineering for a couple years. She was out in 2y
Re:Was there a tech-hiring bubble? Indeed.com job postings d... by 908B64B197 on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @10:58AM (#35169317)
Someone got rejected a lot in college...
Re:Was there a tech-hiring bubble? Indeed.com job postings d... by lukas099 on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @11:03AM (#35169388)
You still don't even have to go to college to be a software developer.
Re:Was there a tech-hiring bubble? Indeed.com job postings d... by adamsmith143 on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @10:32AM (#35168856)
Are you so naive you think compensation is actually tied to societal value and not revenue generated per employee? Oh what a world that would be, Pre-K Teachers would be living in gated Mansions and garbage men would be driving Bentleys, it certainly isn't ours though.
Re:Was there a tech-hiring bubble? Indeed.com job postings d... by 908B64B197 on Wednesday March 15, 2023 @10:57AM (#35169307)
You can thank over-regulation for that.

In countries with socialized care, there's one employer that dictates working conditions (the state). Over-licensing means it's a hassle to port a license to another jurisdiction (to be subject to a single employer again).

In America, same issues mostly except it's not the state that employs but an organization that's given a monopoly over a region thanks to certificates of need. [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_of_need