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Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by notfromhere on Sunday March 12, 2023 @06:59PM (#35127656)
VCs started a bank run by telling all their portfolio companies to pull out
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by epvgwwqe on Sunday March 12, 2023 @07:30PM (#35128115)
No. SVB price crashed 50% in one day and got downrated by Moodys, which exposed a bunch of red flags that would have resulted in a bank run regardless of what VCs said.
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by mrangle on Sunday March 12, 2023 @08:00PM (#35128492)
The stock crashed because of the initial pseudo bank run due to high interest rates on capital (at least that's the reason given for withdrawals), and the bank's subsequent failure to make up the difference after selling a treasuries portfolio. After which a real bank run occurred. Then the bank started down a path of a more desperate measure, and that's when they were shut down. At least that's what I got from an article.
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by lambic2 on Sunday March 12, 2023 @07:16PM (#35127936)
That's just basic logic that anyone would follow to survive. VC's had nothing to do with SVB's bad money management.
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by labster on Sunday March 12, 2023 @07:41PM (#35128248)
I see it the other way around. The VCs started a panic. Name one other bank that could survive $42 billion in withdrawals in a single day. Other than Bank of Zimbabwe, obviously. Even Wells and JP Morgan would collapse under that strain. The VCs caused their own pain.
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by scopendo on Sunday March 12, 2023 @07:50PM (#35128378)
The panic was started by SVB, not VCs. Abstract this to any other bank and the reaction would have been the same.
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by hello_moto on Sunday March 12, 2023 @07:25PM (#35128047)
They triggered the rush that exacerbate the downfall.

If nobody is rushing, SVB could probably find ways to sell something before it's too late.

Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by delfinom on Sunday March 12, 2023 @07:51PM (#35128380)
No small or medium bank in the US can withstand a bank run
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by lxm on Sunday March 12, 2023 @07:27PM (#35128075)
Yeah, but what are the specific cash amounts we are talking about?

Such extreme exposure to interest rate risk would've blown up in some other ways - say, a large client processing a routine payroll, executing stock buyback, or investing in an entity that banks elsewhere.

Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by vkou on Sunday March 12, 2023 @07:36PM (#35128198)
VCs started a bank run because the bank they were using was insolvent.

That's not their fault. Would you keep your money in an insolvent bank?

Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by WanderPanda on Sunday March 12, 2023 @08:02PM (#35128525)
I think they were solvent im the beginning of the week. But idk if it was just because they didn‘t have to mark their underwater investments to market
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by opportune on Sunday March 12, 2023 @09:26PM (#35129419)
That’s a peculiar definition of “solvent”
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by loeg on Sunday March 12, 2023 @11:15PM (#35130534)
It's the one banks and regulators use, though!
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by ssnistfajen on Sunday March 12, 2023 @08:20PM (#35128746)
SVB had risks, VCs did what they should do to respond to said risk. Would you blame regular working class people in a retail bank run scenario for wanting to save their money from potential risk?