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Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by belter on Sunday March 12, 2023 @06:42PM (#35127335)
"...recovered by a special assessment on banks, as required by law..." - Would love to know what law/regulatory framework she is referring to. Janet Yellen is ready to become a US based Liz Truss...

Now expect a contagion effect next week, if SVB liabilities are shown worst than currently known, and made to bare on other banks capital requirements...

"US banks sitting on unrealized losses of $620 billion" - https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/12/investing/stocks-week-ahe...

Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by hn_throwaway_99 on Sunday March 12, 2023 @06:49PM (#35127474)
> Would love to know what law/regulatory framework she is referring to.

This is not some conspiratorial secret. Banks pay premiums to the FDIC for their insurance, and it's a requirement of all chartered banks. The FDIC has the right to backstop deposits in excess of the deposit limit by invoking a "systemic risk" clause (I'm not sure exactly which law this comes under, whether it's some of the original laws that created the FDIC, or more recent post-financial crisis updates). When the FDIC fund gets depleted, they have the right to invoke a special assessment against banks.

> Now expect a contagion effect it next week

The whole point of doing this is to prevent a contagion. The reason there was a bank run against SVB was a mix not just that their asset values had deteriorated (that was well known for some time), it's that their non-diversified deposit base of VC-funded start ups have gradually needed to up their withdrawals since early 2022. SVB would have survived if there wasn't a run on the bank, and the whole purpose of this action was to prevent further runs by saying that deposits will be protected.

Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by belter on Sunday March 12, 2023 @07:03PM (#35127708)
Ok. Lets say next week a larger bank, is shown to have made some other risky bets...Are you still in to make all depositors whole? Let's say JP Morgan or Goldman Sachs?
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by jnwatson on Sunday March 12, 2023 @07:06PM (#35127771)
Large banks have different rules and are scrutinized more carefully.
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by belter on Sunday March 12, 2023 @07:15PM (#35127917)
But would still love to know, what the course of action in that case should be...
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by blackoil on Sunday March 12, 2023 @08:50PM (#35129005)
That will break the economy, so Congress and Fed will have to jump in to provide the liquidity required. Like in 2008
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by luckylion on Sunday March 12, 2023 @06:57PM (#35127620)
> Banks pay premiums to the FDIC for their insurance, and it's a requirement of all chartered banks.

Do they have special rules for when the FDIC decides to retroactively insure some bank's deposits for more than $250k per account holder? Because now everyone's insurance premiums will go up to cover this, won't they?

Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by reissbaker on Sunday March 12, 2023 @07:03PM (#35127710)
What? The FDIC controls the premiums, because the FDIC is the insurer. Moreover, the FDIC is not actually paying out any insurance claims here! SVB is being acquired, and the acquirer is providing access to funds on Monday, not the FDIC. There is no cost to the taxpayer here, and the FDIC is not raising premiums as a result of this either. It didn't pay out any claims (and wouldn't likely raise premiums even if it did).
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by luckylion on Sunday March 12, 2023 @07:06PM (#35127762)
Not the taxpayers, all the other banks which are funding FDIC have to pay:

> Any losses to the Deposit Insurance Fund to support uninsured depositors will be recovered by a special assessment on banks, as required by law.

So even those that were not insured will now be retroactively insured, and the better-run banks will have to pay for it, won't they?

Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by astrange on Sunday March 12, 2023 @07:26PM (#35128053)
There aren't any losses to the deposit insurance fund yet. If this increases confidence then it will instead reduce how much is taken from it.
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by spdustin on Sunday March 12, 2023 @06:51PM (#35127499)
12 U.S.C. 1817(b)(5) is the “regulatory framework” you’re looking for. The FDIC can levy a special assessment for literally any purpose it seems necessary.
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by belter on Sunday March 12, 2023 @07:19PM (#35127973)
Thanks for being more precise than the FED statement :-) Yes it's there, but not for the purpose used here. Contracts have clauses, but there is also the so called spirit of the law and it can be made to work in legal cases.

(5)Emergency special assessments

In addition to the other assessments imposed on insured depository institutions under this subsection, the Corporation may impose 1 or more special assessments on insured depository institutions in an amount determined by the Corporation if the amount of any such assessment is necessary—

(A)to provide sufficient assessment income to repay amounts borrowed from the Secretary of the Treasury under section 1824(a) of this title in accordance with the repayment schedule in effect under section 1824(c) of this title during the period with respect to which such assessment is imposed;

(B)to provide sufficient assessment income to repay obligations issued to and other amounts borrowed from insured depository institutions under section 1824(d) of this title; or

(C)for any other purpose that the Corporation may deem necessary.

Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by mixdup on Sunday March 12, 2023 @06:44PM (#35127373)
the systemic risk exceptions/procedures they're using were put in place after 2008
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by jen20 on Sunday March 12, 2023 @06:45PM (#35127390)
… are you sure you understand who Liz Truss is and what she did?
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by belter on Sunday March 12, 2023 @06:47PM (#35127426)
Yes.